Picked up my ev3 at the end of November. Live in Southern England. Weather has been mile - 6-12 degrees. Am getting 2.50-2.6miles per kWh implying range of 180-200 miles. It is the 'long range version', with advertised range of 350 miles. Dealer saying we must be using the heating too much etc - not true. They say they can't see an issue with the car having examined it once. They say they will take it in for another look. Am very disappointed. Have said inside 30 days from purchase that I want a refund and they won't accept this (yet) as they haven't found an issue. Presumably a range of 200 miles against a supposed 350miles is not an issue for them (but it docent work for me). This despite them saying that all other buyers are getting much better ranges and are happy. Love the car other than the abysmal range. Taking legal advice. Surprised that KIA (who I've informed) and the dealership are willing to risk such bad publicity about a new car. Any useful advice about what to do would be appreciated. The car is great other than the range, and I don't want to pour cold water on the vehicle. But if KIA won't address the problem of a faulty car or the range is really as bad as I'm getting then people need to know about it.
EV3 battery/range problems
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Also beeps when the speed limit changes. Also beeps when you reverse and there is anything vaguely behind you. Also beeps if there is a speed camera ahead. There are many many beeps
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Funny, I've never had the attention monitor beep. Mind you, one of my pet hates is following a car where the driver finds it necessary to turn and face their front passenger when having a conversation. Therefore, a big thumbs 👍 up for the attention monitor in my book.
All of these can be disabled, and in my car at least, they are not turned back on again when the car is power cycled
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To be honest I just ignore most of them. Daft really as the object of the exercise is to inform the driver of issues, but it is a case of overload I'm afraid so the initial safety reasons are mostly lost on me.
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A follow up to my recent message. EV3 GT line S.
i visited the dealers. They were great, said about my poor range “it should be way better than that”.
and now, its much better. my SalesRep sat in the car, and basically, its down to me!
Main issue: the car defaults to ‘Normal’ driving mode. If I set to Eco, then either switch off, or select another gear, it changes back to Normal mode. This makes a huge difference to the range. Heating: although no lights were showing on AC, front screen, rear etc, the heating was still on! Need to press and hold down the fan button to fully turn off the system. If it is displaying the temperature, it’s on!
next, unlike the Speedo in most cars which reads about 7-8% high, this one is within 1%, so 70 means 70, not 65; so we were also driving a bit faster.
these things together, and driving frugally, after last night’s charge, I had a predicted range of 328miles. At this time of year, I think that’s about right.
love the car, one day I’ll get to grips with all the gadgets. The only downside now, is that my wife loves it, so it may not be mine for long!
i visited the dealers. They were great, said about my poor range “it should be way better than that”.
and now, its much better. my SalesRep sat in the car, and basically, its down to me!
Main issue: the car defaults to ‘Normal’ driving mode. If I set to Eco, then either switch off, or select another gear, it changes back to Normal mode. This makes a huge difference to the range. Heating: although no lights were showing on AC, front screen, rear etc, the heating was still on! Need to press and hold down the fan button to fully turn off the system. If it is displaying the temperature, it’s on!
next, unlike the Speedo in most cars which reads about 7-8% high, this one is within 1%, so 70 means 70, not 65; so we were also driving a bit faster.
these things together, and driving frugally, after last night’s charge, I had a predicted range of 328miles. At this time of year, I think that’s about right.
love the car, one day I’ll get to grips with all the gadgets. The only downside now, is that my wife loves it, so it may not be mine for long!
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time to enjoy the car, mate!
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Er, I am not driving a car with no heating. Mine (e-niro) is set to 22/23 fan on 1 (depending on MRS) & still getting 290 in eco. Which is over WLTP for the car.
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I am brand new to EV driving after nearly 50 years of driving manual gearboxes!
Two days driving the EV3. Quite like it! Few little quirks, but getting between 3.5 to 3.9 miles per kWh with gentle driving mainly on dual carriageway, a steady 55 mph with the occasional 70 mph overtake. I have only driven 100 miles so far. Will report back my real average in a month or so, before the weather warms up.
Two days driving the EV3. Quite like it! Few little quirks, but getting between 3.5 to 3.9 miles per kWh with gentle driving mainly on dual carriageway, a steady 55 mph with the occasional 70 mph overtake. I have only driven 100 miles so far. Will report back my real average in a month or so, before the weather warms up.
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Couldn’t help but notice. On trip three everything off your climate control was displaying 24 degrees driver only. So maybe that readout needs repeating.While a good test.I'm guessing this was one after the other which will have warmed battery & car up internally. Which will mess up stats slightly.
When I stopped to take the photos, I would turn on climate control to warm up the car, and defrost the windscreen. Between each trip I would turn off the car, open and close the driver door to make the car reset the current trip. Opening and closing the driver door was needed, it seems, to trick the car that nobody was inside to actually fully turn off.
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For anyone interested. The Norwegians run a regular controlled battery efficiency road test. The Ev3 came out one of the better evs. The test was on a controlled route at a temperature of -6C. It only lost 14% of its stated range. It you want to see the comparisons just Google El Prix 2025 and you should find it.(I don’t post links for security reasons and the safety of the group). I do own an Ev3 by the way.
I've seen this, and I don't buy it. I'm assuming it's the Air model, because of their stated max range of 590km (366miles). They got 504km (313miles). The usable battery capacity of the Kia EV3 is 78kwh, 313/78=4.01 m/kWh. Yah, not sure how you get that in winter at -6C. Not under normal circumstances.
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I don’t know how the ratio regarding loss of range and temperature. I have had over 4m/kwh at 0C but not driven below that temperature. I can’t say I’ve detected much of a difference between 0-6 degrees. Maybe one or two miles on the centre scale. I can’t say I’ve certainly see an improvement around the 9-12 degrees driver only mark. It’s early days to speculate for me. I guess I will know more as time goes on. Thanks for your point of view.
I guess the point I was eluding to was "under normal circumstances". I've had my GT Line S, with a heat pump, since 19th December. Since that time, the only way I can achieve 4 is by turning of climate control, or at the very least, using it on fan speed 1 as little as possible, and turning it off frequently. Only using it to demist the screen. But during those times, 4 is very hard to maintain. Granted, I do mainly very short trips, which is not helpful, but still. The only time I have seen it be somewhat unaffected by the climate control was just after rapid charging (having conditioned the battery to the charger too), then the battery is warm and you are just harvesting the heat.
Since collecting my car (Last Reset on the screen) I'm on 3.4m/kWh. My current, "Since Recharging" is at 3.8. To achieve that 3.8 I do what I stated above, never use the climate control, or use it on fan speed 1 to demist. By the time I charge again, it will probably be at 3.5 or so. To me, this is nor normal use. I would like to have the climate control on, I would like to be comfortable in the car, but in order to eek out as much range as possible, I have to go through these things.
Yes, this is my first EV. And yes, I can't charge at home, and not being able to charge at home is why range is so very important to me. If I could do 4, I would be ecstatic. Even 3.5 with Climate Control on all the time I would be happy, but in my experience, that is not possible.
I know people will come on here and say they achieve 4 with climate control on all the time. Personally, I have never been able to do that, and I don't know how people achieve this. I have tried everything, I have a very obsessive, analytical mind, and without "suffering" I struggle to maintain 3.5.
I don't mean to say, you're wrong, or others are wrong, and I am honestly not attacking anyone. This is just my experience, and confusion. I constantly feel like I am doing something wrong, because I can't get a consistent 4 m/kWh. I know in summer this will be the norm, but for now, in winter, it baffles me.
Having said all that, Kia Connect gives me this
So I honestly don't know what to believe any more
Though if I understand this correctly, the top one is just for today, and the bottom one is over the last tow or three days. But still, this is driving with a misty window.
@DirkEV3 If the stated WLTP figure for that car is 366, that suggests a GT Line on 19" wheels, as the Air with long range battery is quoted on WLTP figures as up to 375 miles range. GT Line is 367 and GT Line S is 362 and GT Line S with heat pump is 361. Also, all of the models of EV3 sold in Norway, from their base model up, (which is called the Active in the smaller battery version and Exclusive in the long range version), are fitted with a heat pump and battery heater as standard, which will have quite an impact in those temperatures on m/Kwh. So perhaps the result is accurate?
The model is, somewhat, immaterial. They still achieved 4m/kWh. My argument is, driving under "normal" circumstances. That is, with climate control on and no pre-conditioning of the battery, I don't buy 4m/kWh, especially at -6C.
But maybe there is something in my driving style that is just completely incompatible with EV's
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You need to be reading the road well ahead, so you are getting the most out of regen or coasting. Gentle on the throttle, as it is all to easy (I still do it) to floor it out of 30/40 to NSL.But maybe there is something in my driving style that is just completely incompatible with EV's
It will get better over time, you will find the sweet spot for you where you get the bast out of the car.
Comparing our 2 reports. My guess is you do a lot of short trips?
My regen is always high, as I have a nice 2 mile downhill section.
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