Oh dear not normally a good sign,
if im right when the engine light illuminates that means warning drive with care & get a mechanic to look at it as soon as possible but when it flashes constant that normally means something is seriously amiss & requires urgent looking at . Safest bet would be to get it down to your dealer asap and get them to check it out . Better safe than sorry in this case , hope you get it fixed soon

 

I have read on here a post by our very own Sharon that the flashing engine light could be a almost full DPF issue and it does say the same in handbook, so when the roads are quieter later, im gonna go back down the motorway for an hr and hopefully it will sort it out ??? ..If not I`ll drop into KIA on the way back from work tomorrow nite and hopefully let them look at it ? ..
Not a happy bunny at the moment ! .... cus im basically screwed without my car !

 

A flashing Engine Management light on the Diesels does indeed mean the DPF has reached 75% This usually means it has tried unsuccessfully to perform an active regeneration 3 times in a row.

Take it for a drive at around 65 MPH continuously for 20 - 25 minutes. Keep it in 5th gear so the revs are on or just over 2000. The light should go out before half an hour is up. If it does not go out, you MUST take it to the Dealership asap!Edited by: sharon75

 

Well after 90 miles and over an hour and 40 mins on the motorway and the lights still flashing at me !.. really not happy with this , will see what the dealer says tomorrow !

 

That's not at all normal. When you drove it tonight did you notice the AVG MPG was a lot lower, or that the INST MPG hovered around the 30 mark instead of full at 60+? Also did the turbo seem to have reduced boost?

I ask these questions because I'm wondering if it was actually doing a max-temp regen. If it has been driving fine up till now, and still drove fine for a whopping 90 miles with the light flashing, them it could be a dicky sensor causing the light to be on.

Given the mileage you did tonight, there are really only two outcomes. Either the max-temp regen should have easily cleared the filter and put the light out, or it cannot for some reason perform the process, and it would have gone into 'limp mode' (restricted revs, little or no boost pressure).

Because it seems neither of these happened, I would say its all pointing to a sensor fault 'tricking' the ECU and bringing the light on.

 

Car drove as normal , no reduced mpg figures, boost felt fine overtaking etc drove in fifth gear all the time except through 50 mph road works where i dropped it to 4th to keep the revs nice and high and hopefully the temps and still nothing

Going to do another 25 odd motorway miles to work this morning and then head to the dealers on the way home ! .... hoping they can either sort it asap or lend me a car at least otherwise im screwed getting to work !

 

You did everything right to allow it to clear itself. My bet is that its a sensor at fault. Be interested to know if anything happened on your drive this morning. And also what the Dealership say. If the light does not go out it will need sorting. It will have logged a fault code at the time and date it came on at, along with the mileage and average speed recorded etc.. So it should be fairly easy for them to find out whats going on.

As for a loan car, I wouldn't worry. If they need to keep yours overnight or longer, they should provide one for you until your car is back to normal again.
Edited by: sharon75

 

Well , just got back fro Kia and the light is still flashing !!
The service manager came out to look at the car and even went out down the motorway and his verdict ? ...... Absolutely fine and nothing wrong with it ?? ..... he reckons while the light is flashing then the car is still attempting to regen but in smaller amounts and told me not to worry and drive it as normal and it will clear over time !!

Im not totally convinced by their verdict but they are the experts not me !

As for my journey this morning , i even put higher octane v-power diesel in and did 40 more miles on the motorway and still the same ....

Think i may take the car down the motorway again tonite and do a couple of hundred miles in one go and hopefully it will HAVE to do a full Regen ? ..... if that doesn't clear it then nothing will ....

Im off work for a few days next week so will be doing some big miles in the car while im off and if its not clear by the end of next week then its going back and im taking no excuses

 

Hi Anthony,

Did the garage guy not plug the diagnostics kit in and read what the fault code was pointing to? Like I say, when that Engine Managament flashes it will have logged a code. That should have been the first thing he checked.

Can you remember how long ago it was that the last normal active regen happened, and how many miles ago it was between that, and the light coming on the other day? Also did the last active regen complete - or did you switch the engine off while it was still saying 'Auto Stop Function Limited'?

As for doing a few hundered miles of motorway now, you are probably wasting your time and money. For if it's not actually doing the 'Max-Temp' active regen that we thought yesterday (75% and light flashing) but not doing anything, then the motorway speeds will just allow passive regeneration, and therefore will not need any intervention from the ECU to start an active cycle.

My suggestion as to take it back and insist they plug it in and check what fault code(s) it's bringing up, then take it from there.Edited by: sharon75

 

Thanks sharon , hand on heart i cant remember the last time it did a Regen, it cant be that long ago !The service manager didnt think plugging it in was necessary but im on your side and i will insist its done if i have to go in again !

Will give it this week and if no better will take it back ! .... as long as its not causing me more car issues ill give the dealer the benefit of their expertise !! .....

These kia dealers aren't doing them selves any favors so far since owning a Kia !

Edit : ... I do have a OBD port reader so could read the code myself, but will leave it for now

Edited by: stumpym4

 

Cor I'd be tempted to plug it in if I had a reader! Very tempting indeed!

 

Cor I'd be tempted to plug it in if I had a reader! Very tempting indeed!

I may do it in the morning ...... just to keep the other forum users happy u understand

 

Your daily commute should ensure the DPF is not the issue. I wouldn't let this drop at the dealership if the engine management light doesn't clear soon and also take it to another dealership for a second opinion if you're not happy.

 

Your daily commute should ensure the DPF is not the issue. I wouldn't let this drop at the dealership if the engine management light doesn't clear soon and also take it to another dealership for a second opinion if you're not happy.

Not going to let it drop, but im expecting to do at least 300 miles next week so it SHOULD force another Regen if not .... back to the dealers ! ...... and this is another dealer to the one that refused to replace my wheel nuts !
So the dealers arent impressing me soo far !

 

This should not be an issue if the engine management light is on then they have to look at what the problem is even if its just for there own satisfaction,7 years warranty should ensure that, am I wrong here but this seems a NO brainer here.

 

Hi guy's,

Anthony, if it's already covered about 250 miles, then don't waste time trying to 'bring on' an active regen with lots of motorway/harder driving. All it will do is Passivly clear the DPF slowly. Best way to get it to start up an active one is to not put it under a load now.

Let it get hot by driving normally, then keep the speed constant for a while. Doesn't have to be fast. About 40 ish in 4th will be enough. If the filter is ready it will see it's met the required papameters and should initiate an Active regen.

I still say it's a dicky sensor to blame for the continued flashing EM light. But like I said before, I would insist that the Dealership plugs in their diagnostic kit and reads the fault code(s) - That should have been what they did as soon as you took it to them.

If you do use your own kit tomorrow, I'd be interested to know what the results are. Providing the codes will mean something to you? I assume you have ways to translate the fault codes into actual plain English?

Anyway, I hope you get this sorted soon, as I can imagine what a worry and a headache this must be for you.

 

My last car was a jaguar, any warning light was just that jaguar would not let you move the car once the problem was reported, it was in there own interest what are kia doing, I don't like where this is going, its not my car we are talking about but the service kia have given in this instance makes me very very worried.

 

Hi Gary,

It's like I said earlier in another thread, it seems to be just some Dealerships that are giving Kia a bad name, or giving owners doubts. Hopefully it's just the minority of Dealerships that are not doing things properly.

 

Hi Gary,

It's like I said earlier in another thread, it seems to be just some Dealerships that are giving Kia a bad name, or giving owners doubts. Hopefully it's just the minority of Dealerships that are not doing things properly.

The thing is , this is a different Kia dealer dealer to the first time ! ... The last time i took it in they were a dealer for 4 different brands but this time its kia only and they still show no interest !
I'm going to email Kia direct as well and explain the situation and see what they say, at least i will have a recorded query.
The dealer was more concerned that i hadn't bought it from them and asked where i had it from !, that was there first question " Did you buy it from us " ????? WTF has that got to do with it !

Edit @ sharon ... i did mention the maybe faulty sensor giving the flashing engine light but he quickly dismissed that by saying if it was a faulty sensor the light would be static and not flash !!

Edited by: stumpym4

 

Hi Anthony,

The guy who dismissed the sensor theory is wrong - well, I say wrong, he is only thinking about one aspect.

On the Diesels if the EM light is on steady, it means there is an emissions issue. So, a faulty sensor to do with the emissions side of things would cause a steady EM light.

The DPF has several sensors. Back pressure, Temperature, EGR etc etc... So as there are more DPF related sensors, the odds are it's one of them, hence a flashing light, no signs of any Active Regen starting up, and the car driving normally.

Did you plug your kit in today yet to see what fault codes are given?

 

Did you plug your kit in today yet to see what fault codes are given?

Go on, you know you want too.

 

Did you plug your kit in today yet to see what fault codes are given?

Go on, you know you want too.

haven't got around to it yet, need to remember where it is first ! ....will try and get it done

 

Eagerly awaiting the readings..

 

Guess what i found ?? ....yep my code reader and indeed it does throw a fault code up .... p2002

which is a DPF fault !! or Particulate trap efficiency below threshold !

Think its time to re visit the dealer!

 

Guess what i found ?? ....yep my code reader and indeed it does throw a fault code up .... p2002

which is a DPF fault !! or Particulate trap efficiency below threshold !

Think its time to re visit the dealer!

This could be costly for Kia then