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The other weekend we went up to Greenock from Peterborough. A distance of 344 miles. We left around 7am and arrived just before 4pm. We had a hour break for lunch and a couple of "wee" breaks. Left with a full tank and arrived with just over half a tank, the trip computer said I could do another 215 miles.
It would be interesting to hear how long it would take someone with an EV to do a similar trip.
Not a EV Owner as it's not cost efficient to me on my mileage.

Given you stopped for a hour. (how far into the trip would make a bit of a difference) I guess a EV could do it in the same time, given a fast charge point where you stopped for the hour.

The main time loss on a EV is when they charge over 80% as that is when the charge rate slows down. Some owners say that the last 20% can take longer than the 1st 80%
Which is why if you watch a lot of u-tube videos. Most only do a quick charge every so often in the fast charge range. Bjørn Nyland does a lot of long driving 1000 Km in EV tests.

If you think a E-Niro can give 282 miles (Kia figure, many people get 300+) A full charge before leaving home & a top in the lunch break.. Should easily match you. (y)

Typical charging time: 20- 80% charged in less than 60 minutes

Now awaits. the EV would be a lot cheaper as well 🤷‍♂️
 

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Another thing I've wondered about is if it's cheaper to charge an EV away from motorway services and motorways are not the best type of roads for them. It could mean they would move to "A" roads. Making journey times even longer.
If you can afford to stop for food in a UK service station. You would not be bothered about any extra cost to charge... Just the same as filling a ICE up. Makes your eyes water just looking at the prices. Never mind having the pump in your hand having to fill up.
Usually you can time a stop off M/Way that has better food, a lot cheaper within a couple of miles. I would rather add 30 minutes onto a trip than spend £30 in a service station...
As the Op said they are only good for wee stops 😂
 

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The other weekend we went up to Greenock from Peterborough. A distance of 344 miles. We left around 7am and arrived just before 4pm. We had a hour break for lunch and a couple of "wee" breaks. Left with a full tank and arrived with just over half a tank, the trip computer said I could do another 215 miles.
It would be interesting to hear how long it would take someone with an EV to do a similar trip.
Same mileage as you in 6 hours. Which included 3 stops 10:11 point.

 

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I think you better recalculate. He states that he starts around 10.30 and arrives around 7.00 which I make 9½ hours.
And where do you get that charging station like that in this country. Your lucky to see half a dozen.
Yes he arrived at final destination at 19:00. But I was not looking at that point.

Look at the time I stated 10:11 (screen shot below) you will see the actual time is 16:26 which from 10:30 which is just under 6 hours. He has done 546Km which is 339 miles.




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So he was doing 73 mph @ 49 miles in and complaining only 69% battery.
Flog a ICE and you MPG drops..
Fast chargers cost more, just the same as filling up at some petrol stations do.
Ever found a petrol station that does not charge, as you can charge a EV at some chargers.

Sorry (not a ev lover) but that is not a good reflection of people who do regular long trips in EV's.

A better idea of the range of the car and how speed effects the range.

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TBH. The Guy Martin video shows how bad we have got. Got to be everywhere as fast as we can.
Who needs to drive 1100 miles in 24 hours? It's not even safe to do so no matter what you drive on your own.

Perhaps EV's will make people think more about their driving. Make sure they take regular breaks to stay awake, and not keep driving, just because the fuel tank gauge says that they have enough fuel to keep going.

Might even start to see the return of the likes of Wimpy's etc with charging stations, rather than Mac D's, KFC, B King & subway. 😍

At the end, the question was answered. Yes the trip can be done in the same time, under the same conditions.
Now it is starting to get into all the usual anti EV arguments..🤷‍♂️
 

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Just because we disagree, doesn't make me anti-ev, on the contrary I think they're an excellent solution for Sunday drivers and retirees, even better if they have a drive and generally only nip to the local big tescos. It still seems that the supporting infrastructure remains fragmented and unreliable. When something is done to bring the charging network up to standard, 90% of people will have no excuse not to go electric.
But some are 😱

TBH. As a retiree. I can not make a EV cost effective. As I have posted before. To buy one & run on my annual mileage is going to take years before I make it cost effective.
Yes I could by a cheaper one and make it work. But that is not what I want to do. I like my toys in the car & older ones are missing these.
O agree charging network need work to get it up to european standards. But a lot of that is down to too many companies involved and competing with each other.
It needs a simple method of payment just the same as we have with ICE. You fill up tap your card & off you go. None of this needing apps, or tags for the different brands.
 

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This from a EV owner on the Kia EV Facebook group

Eat your heart out, Guy Martin!
We have started our Scottish adventure, with the first leg on Tuesday - 430 miles from South Suffolk up to Alexandria near Loch Lomond. Proper motorway speeds, with no issues apart from Gretna services, where the 2 old Electric Highway chargers didn't work. Ended up using Ionity.
About 7.5 - 8 hours, with 3 decent breaks for recharging, comfort breaks & refreshments, plus I hate driving more than 2.5 hours in one go.
 
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