[Brian394]

Sportage 2019 gt line.

Just finished fitting a Westfalia detachable towbar and dedicated wiring loom from PJ jones

I fitted the loom per instructions, but the tail lights have no power at the plug.

The instructions don't make clear exactly when you are connecting into the tail light wiring, but i think its when you join the can bus lines.

I've connected them as shown in the pictures, or have I connected to the wrong wires?

The joint connector it shows in the pictures isn't there, but there is a body control module in the boot, and the loom splits roughly where the joint connector is in the instructions. It was on the white/brown coiled wires from that that ined connected onto.

And pointers would be appreciated. And yes, I'm about to email PF Jones for advice aswell.

 

[BIRDMAN]

I have not done a Sportage but all others I have done the jf01 connector is drivers side kick panel under dash

 

[ray_b]

I have never fitted a tow bar....but
If I am reading the correct instructions off the Interweb.
Between sections 16 and 17 the graphic indicates that there could be more than one BL/BR wire this, in turn, runs Wt and BK to the socket (side lights) graphic between sections 8 and 9.

My question is, there may be more than one BL/BR and if so do you have the correct one?

 

[BIRDMAN]

All I can say is the connection I have used for the two Can bus wires is a 32 pin connection block front off motor but this has been on a Hyundai, and fiat Ducato 16 pin connector again at front of motorhome. Hyundai wiring looms being the same as Kia. I remember some time back someone had wired a Sorento and connected to a block in boot and did not work.

 

[ray_b]

Hi Birdman, I know you know a whole bunch more than me on wiring these things however the instructions are defiantly different for the Hyundai and the Kia. As I say I have never done one.
My refernce is here.

https://www.pfjones.co.uk/Wiring_instructions/19500616RC.pdf

It is indicated that all is done from the rear, although you may well be right and he may need to look further afield.
The original OP also mentions that he has contacted the supplier, but no update as to the outcome. In fact no reply at all.

 

[BIRDMAN]

Pf Jones show 2 kits for 2016 onwards, one of those for 2018 face-lift.. One set shows a 32 pin connection block the other a 30 pin. Which one has he got. We will wait and see if he reports back.
I previously had a Sorento and now Santa fe and both used same kit as each other.

 

[Brian394]

I have emailed PF jones but they havnt yet replied.

I'm using this wiring loom - You are being redirected....

It does show as being for both the 2016 sportage and 2018 face-lift, with the same part numbers. So I have the 32 block one.


ray_b I think you are looking at the fog light wiring connections, not tail.

If PF Jones don't help me, I think ill take the loom out and just go to Kia and buy direct.

From finding the instructions on Mobis Marketing Plattform its a proper plug and play, no silly connections, type job.

 

[mr.macspot]

If PF Jones don't help me, I think ill take the loom out and just go to Kia and buy direct.

From finding the instructions on Mobis Marketing Plattform its a proper plug and play, no silly connections, type job.

I've been following this conversation with interest, although I can't add anything constructive as I usually get my towbars fitted (I am hopeless with car mechanicals). However you sat you may decide to go to your local Kia dealer instead, before you do I would look around at local towbar specialists. Most dealerships, no matter the make, will outsource to local towbar fitters. You may as well miss out the middleman.

 

[BIRDMAN]

Have you looked under dash for 32pin connector. May be worth temporarily running two cables across car to it and connect on the pin numbers and see if it works. Some months ago a member had a dedicated fitted by a towbar fitter on a Sorento and would not work untill wired to front. Otherwise I cannot suggest anything else unless you have a faulty unit.

 

[ray_b]

Oops did say I have never done it before, should have looked further up on the sheet for the bulb designation key.
At least it sparked a bit of discussion

 

[Brian394]

I've been following this conversation with interest, although I can't add anything constructive as I usually get my towbars fitted (I am hopeless with car mechanicals). However you sat you may decide to go to your local Kia dealer instead, before you do I would look around at local towbar specialists. Most dealerships, no matter the make, will outsource to local towbar fitters. You may as well miss out the middleman.

I mean if I go kia, it'll be to just buy the wiring loom, as the kia loom plugs directly into the lights using a Y extension.

Have you looked under dash for 32pin connector. May be worth temporarily running two cables across car to it and connect on the pin numbers and see if it works. Some months ago a member had a dedicated fitted by a towbar fitter on a Sorento and would not work untill wired to front. Otherwise I cannot suggest anything else unless you have a faulty unit.

Birdman, I'm at work at the moment so will try having a look when I get home.


On another note, don't suppose you know what these connections are for? They are on top of the crash bar, and weren't connected to anything. If these are factory fitted towbar connections, I will scream.

 

[BIRDMAN]

Have you got reversing sensors, if not probably for those.
When I did my Santa fe all the wiring if I remember though the reversing ones were Blue colour. The kits I use are always the genuine makers and every connector for different lights you just un plug and plug in new connector thus no cutting anywhere. Just the 2 CAN bus wires to clip on. Bit more expensive by about £20 but a lot quicker. Hope you get sorted.

 

[Brian394]

PF Jones are sending me a new module as they think mines might be faulty...

 

[BIRDMAN]

Hope this sorts it

 

[sporte steve 2017]

Had my tow bar fitted by the kia dealer before i took delivery of the car they did the job themselves and were cheaper than a local well known and long established tow bar fitter and i have peace of mind that their will be no warranties issues as kia carried out the work with kia parts.