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Had my brakes checked at Kia today having thought, at 26,500 miles, that my pads might be getting close to done.

Was told that the pads are nearly ready to be replaced. At 4mm all round.

They also recommended that my discs are changed. They said the current discs wouldn’t last for my next set of pads, and would also make the new pads wear more quickly if I decided not to change them. Costs below (fully fitted):

Front pads originally 12mm, now 4mm
Rear pads 10mm, now 4mm

Pads - £327.50 front, £363.50 rear
Discs - £379.50 front, £331.50 rear

Total - Pads and discs - £707 front and £695 rear = £1402

Thoughts, especially re the discs needing changing at 26,500 miles??

PS - currently not keen on going for other makes of pads and discs. Early research tells me the savings are not worth the warranty issues Kia are warning of - I did ask their views today. Willing to hear your thoughts though people!

PPS - with my creaking roof driving me mad, and used values high, is this the time to move on (if I can find a good value replacement!!) ?
 

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How much are the pads/disc parts themselves. i.e. how much is the labour. Depending on how handy you are, discs/pads isn’t that difficult on majority of cars. Issues would really be if callipers seized etc. (more unlikely with cars not that old/lower mileage etc.)

Most car manufacturers sell pads/discs in sets (i.e. for both front or both rears) anyway, so suprised if they priced them per corner.
 

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Those prices aren't that shocking, considering they came from a dealer. I had discs done around 20k on my much lower powered ceed and a recent quote for brakes wasn't a long way off yours. I might have been a overly scathing about kia consumables, judging by their reaction.

What warranty issues can you foresee from discs/pads? I don't see any reason to pay the ridiculous dealer prices for average, at best, replacement parts.
 

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So, c£220 for front set and same again for rear set.
And c£260 for discs (guess rears might be less but not listed above).

1 hour labour I would say to do front set and 1 for rear.
Not sure what Kia labour rates are, but lets say £120ph?

So front set all in for about £350 and same again for rear?
Or get a cheaper mechanic to do it, or DIY.
 

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It wouldn't be so bad if the stock brakes were actually any good and didn't dust up so much. For Brembos they are really poor.

You pay an incredibly hefty premium for what I would class as bang average brakes. The amount of us that have had uneven wear and discs/pads replaced under warranty shows how rubbish they are.

I have a friend with a Nissan GTR who pays only a touch more for discs and pads all around than the above figure. A GTR with 600bhp... not a Kia! Got to recoup their costs on the Stinger somehow I guess along with their overkill 6 month/6k mile servicing. At least the servicing costs are actually pretty reasonable. The price of the brakes are a joke.
 

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Yes, I've had really uneven wear on my pads, I didn't know this what a 'thing' with the stinger? Also, I've recently started noticing shuddering under braking from high speed so I was wondering if my disks have become warped? £1400 for the full replacement is a huge amount of cash. I had new pads front and rear so have already been stung (excuse the pun) by these high prices, made even worse by the fact that some of pads had a decent amount of meat left on them too.

The way I'm looking at it currently though is along the lines of trying to factor in these costs into the overall cost of ownership. So, if I'd gone for an S5 for example, and paid £10-£15k more, I'd still have way less cash in my pocked than now, even with some of these consumables being expensive (they'd be expensive on and S5 anyway, and even if not as much as Kia is charging, probably not by thousands). The Stinger in my opinion is extremely good value for money generally so I guess that occasionally you have to pay the price.

This is of course all irrelevant if you couldn't have afforded an S5 in the first place, and you were at the top of your budget when buying the Stinger, so took advantage of getting a better car than you would have otherwise have been able to afford by going for the Kia. After all, a £30k A4 1.4T probably has quite cheap brakes!
 

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Had a full set of discs and pads about 15 years ago for my Saab Aero, that set me back £900, and that was a Saab specialist, not a main stealer.

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You can try EBC for Stinger stuff.. they have OEM standard discs and pads at a reasonable price. Good quality too 👏 had them on my old Fiesta and Focus ST's and perform really well.

Normal OEM quality kit for 363 (front) and 313 (rear) which covers both sides for each kit. Incl VAT of course
 

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I've been told that my front disks need changing at 22k miles. This also means new pads, but the dealer only changed the pads 6 months ago and they're only 10% worn! Like mentioned above, it's terrible that the dealer would put £300 pads on the car knowing that disks would be needed shortly!

However, are the new disks really needed? I complained about shudder under braking and this is their solution. They say the disks are lipped, but how much lip actually means new disks are needed? The car passed it's MOT 2 weeks ago with no advisories, presumably meaning the disks are good for another year!
 

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I had an rx-8 and went through two sets of discs in 3 years… welcome to the club

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If you want to know exactly how worn the discs are you need to get a gauge that measures disc thickness and compare it to the manufacturers spec sheet. Which the garage should do anyway!
But if you complain of uneven braking performance as it can indicate stress, that warrants a replacement. You could inspect them further and see if it’s the brake pad compound at fault.

As for replacing the pads: if they are near new, you could just get them skimmed a bit and try and bed them in. Again not advisable due to issues with uneven brake contact.

Bottom line: you can save money but it won’t be risk free.
 

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All good points. To be honest, if I do really need disks, the dealer needs to pay for new pads as they should have never have put them on at the last service. The disks won't be much different now than then because we do very low mileage.
 

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I've been told that my front disks need changing at 22k miles. This also means new pads, but the dealer only changed the pads 6 months ago and they're only 10% worn! Like mentioned above, it's terrible that the dealer would put £300 pads on the car knowing that disks would be needed shortly!

However, are the new disks really needed? I complained about shudder under braking and this is their solution. They say the disks are lipped, but how much lip actually means new disks are needed? The car passed it's MOT 2 weeks ago with no advisories, presumably meaning the disks are good for another year!
Lipped discs don't shudder, but if there has been a build up of pad material or warping, then new discs is the solution, unless you can find somewhere to skim them, but not much point if they are near the limit anyway.
 

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To be honest, if I can determine that the disks still have life, I'll live with the shudder to get some more life out of the pads. I'll see what happens when I collect the car later today.
 

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Total - Pads and discs - £707 front and £695 rear = £1402
Fek me. Been on the road for over 45 years and during that time I have never had to replace rear discs. On one car I did 115,000 miles in I replaced the rear pads at 70,000 miles but the discs were fine. On that same car the front pads needed replacing every 35,000 and I did the discs at 70,000 since they were badly lipped. Cost was my labour plus parts each time and cost peanuts, seem to remember that a pair of vented discs and pads were about £40.

They must be made of cheese.

At 5 years old and over 50,000 miles the pads (front and rear) on our Ceed were the originals and still fine.
 

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To be honest, if I can determine that the disks still have life, I'll live with the shudder to get some more life out of the pads. I'll see what happens when I collect the car later today.
Obviously you wouldn't want to do this on a public road, e.g. an empty motorway at 3am, but assuming you have access to your own private runway, you could accelerate to motorway speeds and perform a series of full-bore braking events to a near stop. Maybe 5 in a row.
Then coast for 5 minutes or so without touching the brakes at all.
Kill or cure - don't blame me if it makes things worse ... if the shudder is caused by pad deposits it might help. If the discs are warped, then it's not going to help.
 

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Fek me. Been on the road for over 45 years and during that time I have never had to replace rear discs. On one car I did 115,000 miles in I replaced the rear pads at 70,000 miles but the discs were fine. On that same car the front pads needed replacing every 35,000 and I did the discs at 70,000 since they were badly lipped. Cost was my labour plus parts each time and cost peanuts, seem to remember that a pair of vented discs and pads were about £40.

They must be made of cheese.

At 5 years old and over 50,000 miles the pads (front and rear) on our Ceed were the originals and still fine.
On an 1800kg car with a top speed of 168mph, the priority for the braking system is not longevity of the discs or pads.

At 29k Miles:
  • Front pads are 40% worn
  • Rear pads changed because they were 80% worn
  • Front/Rear discs still within specs, but a bit lipped.
 

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Interesting that your front pads were less worn than the front - don't the front take more of the of the weight that than the rear? Perhaps, if you do a lot of motorway driving and not using the brakes, the rears could be worn more due to TC kicking in when you're booting it around roundabouts? :)

Anyhow, my front pads are actually 20% warn not 10% after about 8 months, and 3k miles. Mainly town driving. When I collected the car, the dealer said that the front disks, although a bit lipped still had life. So. I've taken no action regarding the shudder since I'm past the 2yr warranty on the disks, and I'm not prepared to bin the pads, or, have a fight with the dealer - just can't be bothered as the shudder doesn't affect us much. Main thing is that the brakes stop the car well, and after doing some hot stops from 60 a while ago to try and smooth out the shudder, I can certainly say they work - felt quite sick and dizzy afterwards!
 
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