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I'm off to look at a 2020 Ceed SW Phev tomorrow.

How are ANY Phev owners finding their PHEV's?
What sort of MPG are your getting in the real world?
If it's suitable I will be having a wall charger installed, as most of my trips are sub 30 miles, so within EV range (all being well)
If you do a lot of short trips and have EV mode selected for these, have you had any ICE issues with lack of use? Or do you just leave it to Hybrid or Auto mode and let it figure it out itself.

Having watched this, which TBH was like sucking eggs.... Totally obvious really.
 

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Missing Equipment?馃槀

Apparently, it's metallic paint option. Premium option...

Only found out as I asked about another car they have which had ME on the end. So wondered if it was a pre release demo option and they had the "Missing Equipment" options 馃槀

Think I prefer your option :)
 

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I have a late '20 top of the range ceed sportswagon PHEV and it's not as good as I'd hoped...but I'm coming 'down' after 5 years driving a merc c350e..so I guess it all depends on your expectations. One of the biggest missed opportunities is that it doesn't have a heatpump so that means you can't remote heat it (yes, first world problem, i know) but it also means the ICE has to kick-in to provide heating so you can't always force it into pure electric mode (which i could on my merc). If you're in UK and it's a BIK driven decision, it's still a great consideration imo
 

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To solve 1st world issue. You use heated seats/steering wheel & a coat.

That is what came out of my research into PHEV's & getting the best MPG you can.
yes, I do...but with a heatpump you can pre-heat on electric, drive AND heat on electric which achieves an infinite MPG. Experience based on 5+years of PHEV and 2 years of HEV ownership :)

to your original question, I charge when i can on public chargers (and would charge at office if it was open). I'm currently averaging 5.2ltr/100km's..you'll need to do the mpg calculation, sorry.
with the Kia, it's easiest/best to leave it in auto mode unless you're going to switch off AC/heating
 

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I charge when i can on public chargers (and would charge at office if it was open). I'm currently averaging 5.2ltr/100km's..you'll need to do the mpg calculation, sorry.
with the Kia, it's easiest/best to leave it in auto mode unless you're going to switch off AC/heating
54.32 British MPG = Pretty OK, Sadly Kia do not state any...

Seen a u-tube where a guy did a test on the ceed SW PHEV and it cost more to use a public charger than it did in petrol for the same trip.
But guess that depends on how much you pay per charge.
Think his figures are about 7:45
 

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54.32 British MPG = Pretty OK, Sadly Kia do not state any...

Seen a u-tube where a guy did a test on the ceed SW PHEV and it cost more to use a public charger than it did in petrol for the same trip.
But guess that depends on how much you pay per charge.
Think his figures are about 7:45
yes, Tesla Bjorn knows what he's talking about (watched many of his video's before ordering an E-niro, but eventually cancelling for the Ceed)...but he as referring specifically to FAST chargers, rather than a normal street or home charger. The Ceed can't fast charge so there's no point in trying to use a fast charger, normal charge takes about 3 hours
 

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How does cost of a normal street charger work out compared to petrol?

I know that home charging is going to be cheaper & any chargers such as Aldi that are free are going to be good value.
 

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How does cost of a normal street charger work out compared to petrol?

I know that home charging is going to be cheaper & any chargers such as Aldi that are free are going to be good value.
well, I'm in NL so i can't give any useful commentary for UK pricing. If i were in the office I'd be able to charge for free there but alas...

not sure if it's relevant...but if i were to be placing a new order today, then i'd take the Octavia PHEV which i believe to be an overall better package (with heatpump!) for just a little more expense.

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Hi all, 1st post

After a week {500+km} of owning a new Ceed SW Phev ... I have to say i am, on balance very happy with it.

Getting 40+ on EV every charge.

Getting accumulated 4.4l/100km (included 250km trip back from dealer) and dropping as the Engine has not barely been on since I got it home. Pure EV day to day.

Trip home on HEV was circa 5.5 I think (motorway). Happy with that too as coming from 2013 zafira tourer 2.0 D.

One major decision for me was that I live in middle of large town with many destinations within a 2km radius... Shops, work, resturaunts, in laws, retail, parks etc.

Hills and sea are 20 and 6km respectively.

We also have 2 x public 22kw chargers within 400m our home (26c per kWh) and await home unit to be installed (16c per kWh). Full charge c. 2hr 40min. Quick calc on current perf show 50% reduction on running costs using public chargers.

Point being 90% of travel can and will be EV for us now....especially under current situation (C19).

8.9kW is a small battery and will take dedication and discipline to keep charged. Really need home charger.

I noticed ICE kicks in at about 20/15% to manage remaining battery. So Q is why not full EV?

A. More expensive
B. When we do go for weekends I don't want to 'need' to be looking for charger
C. To be able to travel at drop of hat, say a trip to city for work, nearby town to collect, impromptu weekend etc

One last thing, on last leg of trip on motorway, I noticed driving in HEV at slightly below the speed limit of 120kmph, the battery was charging noticeably such that I arrived home with 1/3 battery. Conservative driving like this is {nay was} not my DNA but thanks to phev purchase, a COVID beard and possibly new sandles in the summer, I may just become 'one of those middle aged, slow phev drivers'.
 

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9 mo. Later, we are getting 3.9 l/100km.
Small {phev} battery a bit of a pain to have to recharge. But dedication bring good consumption, lower running costs and greener planet.
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Couple of niggles :
  1. Back seat legroom is terrible.
  2. Windscreen a bugger to demist
  3. Fuel cap, often doesn't pop... Possibly due to lack of use 馃憣
  4. The sport mode should be called charge mode, as it charges battery whilst driving. Nice to arrive off motorway with full battery but Some calcs show charging at home much cheaper than extra fuel needed for sport mode charging.

Still good option all things considered. Still happy with PHEV over EV, as allows for lack of planning and detours on road trips.
 

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Thanks for the 9 month update Mathraki. Picking ours up in the morning and looking forward to it!

Those niggles don't seem too bad. The windscreen demisting time seems like the most annoying one to me!

I have a home charger and charge my c350e every day but think given our weekday use should only have to charge the Ceed SW every second day.
 

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Picked up my Ceed SW PHEV this morning and very happy so far. Have had limited time to play around with it so far but am really impressed with the smooth transition between ev power and engine. Much better than the c350e for this and better than the Toyota CH-R I was recently driving.

Doesn't have anywhere near the power/acceleration of the Merc as expected but seats and driving position are as comfortable.
 

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Hi, it's hard to answer that at this time of year as the dynamic nature of the phev, and the outside temperature means there are unavoidable times where the engine startsbti support cabin heating, de-misting etc.

The smooth dynamic switching between modes (and seamlessly back again) as well as regeneration is a wonderful thing to observe indeed.

A full charge yields 55km range. I have not driven mindfully on ev only to see what I get.... I must do. But the phev, is a hybrid... And as such after 11,500km I average 3.9 L/100km (60mpg). I have countless 0L trips that make this possible, hence phev suited to metro, stop start, errand and shorter trips but offer good mpg averages for longer journeys.

The battery never goes to zero charge, in that by the time it gets to say 25% on the needle, the ev range shows as zero.

Recently I left house on "auto" mode. I did c. 8km on ev and joined motorway and I got 46km down the road before ev range was at zero. BUT as I was in auto mode, I also used fuel. I noted the details when ev range =0. I had 3.1 L/100km, that's 76mpg. I would have had AC on and doing 120km... Not model ev driving conditions馃槈

By contrast my wife often does the Monday to Friday school runs on a single charge if the weather is not cold....why we opted for this.
 

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Currently charging every second or third day ourselves during the week as the school runs and other local journeys is all we tend to do.

We are also leaving it in automatic mode - the car knows better than we do what is the most efficient mode or getting from A to B!!
 
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