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hi , I'm thinking of buying the new Sorento but the spec between the 2 and 3 confuse me - - will you be importing the 3 in manual or be able to upspeck the 2 -
No and no, sorry.
Kia aren't to hot on the factory option thing, could be thier downfall if they are not careful.
 

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Disappointed by the the options on new Sorento.The car itself is great. Have been waiting for it for months to replace my 2003 model but can't believe there's no option at allfor bluetooth or Satnav - in a 2010 car. Even more annoying is the fact that unless you go for the lowest spec model, you have to take the 7 seats. Yes, you can fold them away, but why pay what must be approx another £750 for seats (look at the price difference for a Hyundai Santa Fe with 5 or 7 seats) you don't need when without them you'd get a fanastic sub-boot extra storage space, which I'd much rather have, and save 750. I also noticed little things in the KX2 I saw in the showroom like the boot cover when removed to lower the seats flatis too wide to store width-ways across the boot. If you have the extra 2 seats up then there's no room for the boot cover in the car at all - so you'd have to keep carting it in and out the house everytime you wanted to make 7 seats. If you wanted to put up 7 seats on the road to take on unexpected passengers then there's nowhere for that boot cover to go, except across people's laps, at an angle. You might just fit it at an angle in the remains of the boot, but the boot goes very small when the extra seats are up and it would pretty much wipe out the remains of the boot space.
Other little things like I'd love the keyless start, but it's only available on the KX3. And why would you want a 6 cd auto changer, forced on you on the top spec car, when they all come with ipod connections. Who's got £30k for a new car and then uses cds instead of an ipod.







When you can opt for 5 seats and add bluetooth and sat sav, I'll be interested, but on a £30,000 car I expect to have far more flexibilty in options.
 

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sat nav and blue tooth yes i was disapointed thease were not available reason we were given is that with thease units available from Tesco for £99 who wants to pay £1800 for a factory fit option plus a subscription each year to keep the maps up to date however we have already enquired with a local audio specialist and they can fit a radio/sat nave unit for £750
as for the load cover storage it does fit across the car as the ends are spring loaded and there is a storage position

6 disc changer, itsis nice to have both options not everyone subcribes to the overpriced ipod especialy the older generation
 

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I think the reasons you were given were just sales people trying to salvage some kind of positive story. Third party satnav, maybe, but you can't buy bluetooth from tesco - you'd need to buy a product not directly designed for the car and pay to have it wired into the sound system - messy. A kia option would be far more simple and appropriate. Besides at £30k for a KX3 the message of go to tesco to complete your car purchase options is hardly a premium stance for a manufacturer. And anyway if that's the message why couldn't Kia sell those cheap products, at least with some kind of designed means built into the car to mount them?


My point about the load cover was about where to store it when not in use. Yes, in use it spring loads into position, but when you want to create a flat load area and therefore move the load cover out of the way, it's too wide to simply lay across the width of the car, like you can on the old Sorento. With 7 seats up, there's no room for it in the car - not in any well thought out way.



I agree ipod is not for everyone, but the aux connection means any mp3 player is applicable. 6 cd autochanger is the exciting car option of 10 years ago. But even if you accept an ipod is over priced, we're talking about about a £30k purchase for the KX3. I don't think an ipod is going to be a problem. £30k is a premium car price - offer premium car options.



Interestingly the US spec comes with Bluetooth and Satnav (check out kia.com USA site) and across the range 5 seat option. Why go with such silly spec limitations for the UK?
 

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US does not have RDS
the blind does store across the car on the floor in two slots low down at the back edge and you clip it in place when you have loaded your takeaway

blue tooth comes on many of the tom tom products now all available from Tesco
 

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Thanks for clarifying the load cover thing... that's one thing at least, but was only a relatively small point. I still don't think the third party bluetooth and satnav is good enough though.
 

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I agree that the UK options on the new Kia Sorento are a mistake. The KX-3 needs to be optional manual box for me (or I'll take a KX-2 with 'extras' like the sunroof). I also don't like having to pay for those space-using 7 seats when I'll never use them! The effect of the auto box on towing weights and economy/emissions is unacceptable for anyone needing a serious towcar.
 

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Have just test-drived the new Serento in auto KX3 form. Nice to drive
(car-like) quite except for tyre noise (will doubtless would improve if
they are changed to better make), bit cramped for leg room in back.
Salesman full of bulls**t but I'd done my homwork beforehand regarding
towing restictions. With a £28000+ price-tag why lots of gimmicks but
no Sat-Nav?

It will probably be essential to have the self-leveling suspension
(& therefore the 7 seats at £500!) in order to counter-act the low
towbar weight. I expect it to be a lot heavier on fuel between towing
& driving solo as the 5th & 6th gears are likely to prove too
high for towing on anything but easy flat roads, but solo should be
quite good. Compared to the Santa-Fe (Hyundai's version) I found it
claustrophobic & the rear view very restricted. Would choose a KX1
or 2 with fewer gimmicks for a lot less money, but at present am more
inclined towards the Santa Fe Premium which, actually, is slightly more
powerfull (& has more dealers nearer to me). It also gives me the
impression of being more pactical, plus there is an alloy spare instead
of a steel spare on the Serento, & a nice conveniant rear door
handle.

Before someone mentions the '7year g'tee' I suggest they look closely
at what is ACTUALLY covered, this is not a comment intended to sl*g-off
the g'tee as I find it very re-assuring that Kia have that much faith
in their product & I applaud them for it. However it is promoted as
a cover-all which it is not.

As a life-time engineer I can add weight to those who have doubts
regarding the long-term costs & towing ability of the new model
compared to the old, in general as with most manufactureres chasing low
emissions & improved fuel consumption, the new models will not tow
as well & be more likely to have shorter lives before large bills
appear. This is the price to be paid for more 'efficient' vehicles.
Better efficiency always has a down-side & long-term reliability is
usualy the first to suffer. However with Kia's excelent reputation
there is a very good chance the new product will enjoy the success of
the old.
 

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We have owned from new, a 2006 XT5 Toyota Rav4 at the moment that cost almost £28k but after aplethora of issues with the Rav4 .i.e. failed intermediate steering shaft, failed AC compressor unit, failed diesel injectors and blocked diesel injector pipework - all just outside of the 3 year warranty period (thank god we took an extended warranty)we shallno longer be gracing the Toyota brand again.


Consequently we have been researching options with other manufacturers that would give us better value for money without compromising our'creature comforts' and minimum space requirementsthat as a family of 5,are absoloute pre-requisites for us.



We really like the new 2010 2.2 CRDi KX-3 Auto 4WD 7 Seat Sorento retailing at £29,795 OTR.We think this offers a much better value for money alternative than say an equivalent sized Audi,BMWor Landrover where you pay £40k upwardsjust for the shell and everything else, starting with the steering wheel is a mind blowing extra!



The 7 Year warranty has massive appeal for us, as this really does mean worry free motoring for a very long time indeed,quite possibly long after we would have ordinarily exchanged the car for something else and would mean that we don't have to think about shelling out for bolt-on warranties at additional expense.



The only sizeable drawback we can see with the new 2010 Sorento (and this is different to the North American 2010 Sorento)that is a massive plus on our existing Toyota isthe absence of a built-in integrated SAT NAV system andBlue Tooth.I must admit as a family for both personal and business use werely quite heavily on ourfully integrated SAT NAV system and blue tooth mobile phone connectivity that isinstalled in ourtoyota.We reallylike the way that you DON'T NEEDbundles of wires plugged in to a cigarette lighter and rubber suckers holding anythingto one'swindow screen and neither do you have to worry about un-plugging and re-plugging in all that equipmentevery time you either exit or enter the vehicle, leaving behind youtell tale signs for those more devious elements of societyto pick up on lookingfor a quick smash and grab.



Third party Sat Nav and blue tooth? No thank you.



We paid extra for the Rav4 to have the integrated SAT NAV & blue tooth options andit's probably the only things that we havecome to appreciateabout an otherwise unreliableToyota, so in today's day and age it is a massive dissapointment(and negative against this vehicle in my opinion) to see that emerging manufacturers like Kia UK have not embraced this technology in their flagship UK top of the line models. As said by others here already, when you are shelling out£30k on acar todayyou expect in anage of iphones, ipods, mp3 players and wireless connectivityetc thatthis type of equipment should beincluded as standard or atleast be made available as an optional extras for those that want it.



Very interesting however that theNorth American Sorento does comewiththe built-in SAT NAV onthe V6 Petrol engine model that they are selling over there.



I will be watching thisto seeif Kia decide to add SAT NAV and Blue Toothin the not too distant future. If they do they willhave another customerwaiting to place an order for the top of the line model, if not then our search for a value-for-money replacement to the Rav4 will go on.



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Valueman
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Hey Murphwiz



you mention the new sorrento gets a 7 yrs warrenty unlike the previous 5.


I thought it was 3 with the mk 2 sorrento.


If this is not the case my 56 plate is still under warrenty.
 

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Some good news from Kia after I wrote to complain about the lack of a manual version of the top-spec KX-3. I quote from a letter they sent me in reply:

"Following the successful launch of the new Sorento, Kia are delighted to announce the addition of a new 6-speed manual version of the Kia Sorento KX-3."

This model is launching on 1st April and will be available in May - prices start from £28,570 (MRP) - the specification matches the KX-3 auto, with the exception of stop/start system, which is only available on auto models.

Now if only they would listen about the extra seat issue!
 

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I guess the grumbles at the spec come under you-can't-please-all-the-people-all-the-time heading?


I am looking at replacing a 5 year old estate with part-time all wheel drive and have had a quick look at a KX-3 auto today and its spec suits me fine. Don't want sat-nav, don't want bluetooth, don't want two extra seats either but.......



Some of the extras on the like-for-like replacement are already on the Sorri KX-3 eg. sunroof, tinted windows, park sensors to name the ones that come to mind at this time of night
and of course costs of any extras are lost immediately in resale down the line.



I want to see the small print for the 7-year waranty thing, the website is a bit thin on this. Yes, it's a great marketing tool but if my auto box packs up 6y11m3w into ownership, do I get a brand new one fitted free? I accept consumables are not included but when another manufacturer did a "lifetime" warranty it wasn't all it appeared to be, I know, been there.....
 
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