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well didnt we do well today my carens went straight through the annual mot not even a advisory i thought the handbrake would let me down but was told there was enough to get through must be time to sell her now and get something newer i was offered £2100 in p/x but that seems a tad low for her anyone got comments on 2005crdi 73000mls black clean v.g condition [with slight [email protected] kia mech says is characteristic of the vehicle?]
 

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Something newer? Another Kia? Carens? Mk2 or Mk3?


Cheap 06 plate Mk2 in Silver on Autotrader at the mo!



If you don't do too much urban driving I'd go up to a Mk3, world of difference in the driving characteristics, just the poor mpg forces me back into the old Mk2, 6mpg makes a huge difference to my "wage" bill with an average of 40k a year travelled!



I'll give you £2k for yours, that way you can buy a new one with cash to make the deal even better lol.
 

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morning mark its laughable how much dealers offer for p/x i bet they would mark it up around£3500 but thats the way things are ,i hate selling cars but it will be ok for someone [if it dosent go wrong] thats always my worry when i sell something, silly really,they are'nt popular down here for some reason ,too many snobs i think,
 

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Just dumped mine off for a new clutch& gearbox rebuild, box went over the weekend, 1st time I've been caught by one of my Mk2's even though I know it's a weak point!


I"stole" my current Mk2, 2004/03 with 80k for £1250! It was cat d after vandalism damage so most didn't want to know but it had a new bonnet & 2 wings & although not the best finish in the world a bit of tlc & a good "mopping" soon saw it back to top class shine!



I try never to p/x anything, a good clean & sensible marketing normally finds the right buyer, don't be to greedy & be flexible with your ideas & you'll get a deal in the end, hopefully!
 

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bet you could have done without the box letting you down but you probably knew it would happen at some point ,£600ish out the window and no earnings, down time is the killer i did spot a carens on auto trader but i think i will run our fiesta and the wife can move up to a volvo estate so if i get 2 grand for carens i wont moan i paid £2500 15 months ago and i set of brakes 2 oil changes and cam belt later wont have hurt much
 

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Downtime is2 days with only 1 lost night of earnings as I normally have Weds off anyway for the footie. Total cost inc. new completeclutch (my choice) is under £800, 12,000 miles warranty & 6 month oil change included so not too bad.
Volvo estate vs Carens: For me a no brainer but then I like to sit up high & have lots of head/leg room!

I'd have been interested at £2k until the box went on mine, need another year with it now to recoup that!
 

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Hi Supercabby, Wonder if you could let me know what work you had done for £800 (inc clutch ), and what symptoms manifested when you say the gearbox went. I'm having trouble with 1st from 2nd, sometimes works if I pull back to 2nd and rough it into 1st if that fails I have to release the clutch and try again ( nightmare at the lights ), but 1st from reverse is no problem, Been quoted £700 - 800 to recon 1st gear syncro. The headache is having read the thread about air in the clutch, I want be sure before I give the nod to gearbox work & if I could get a better price.
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Hi Supacabby, Wonder if you could let me know what work you had done
for £800 (inc clutch ), and what symptoms manifested when you say the
gearbox went. I'm having trouble with 1st from 2nd, sometimes works if
I pull back to 2nd and rough it into 1st if that fails I have to
release the clutch and try again ( nightmare at the lights ), but 1st
from reverse is no problem, Been quoted £700 - 800 to recon 1st gear
syncro. The headache is having read the thread about air in the clutch,
I want be sure before I give the nod to gearbox work & if I could
get a better price, would appreciate any advice from anybody need the car to work (taxi driver ).


Regards


Graham.
 

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Hi Graham,
Before I answer can you let me know what model/year Carens you have please.

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Ok,
My mk2 wouldn't go into 3rd properly, the synchro had gone, it was graunching & very stiff to change gear.

I had a complete gearbox rebuild & a new clutch, total cost was appx £800, if you've been quoted that just to repair the synchro then look elsewhere, that's too steep! Had a warranty of 12,000 miles with the box & the price included an oil change after 6 months.

If you've managed 106k on the original box you've done very well, most don't get past 80k if that!

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Hi Mark, Guy in Liverpool quoted £500 odd for bits + 225 lab, told me complete rebuild would cost more than new box from Kia, I wonder do you know if your guy sourced parts direct from Kia, or is there another supplier? Unfortunate thing regarding the mileage is only 2,000 are mine, been faultless gearwise till this week, seller must have crystal ball, still only paid 1,300 so still quids in if this can be sorted at right price.
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I had a complete rebuild by a gearbox specialist (http://www.thegearboxshop.co.uk/about.html) - cost was under £500 &I supplied a new complete clutch kit that they fitted foc for me, might be worth a run into town even though I apprecitae it's a long way for you. Was vor for 3 days.
 

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Are gearbox problems inevitable, then, for Mk2s?

Mine currently has done around 62k miles, I tend to drive around 20k miles a year (mainly motorway), and as a preventative thing, was thinking of having the gearbox oil changed at the next service (some time during the next couple of months).

Does maintenance help, sympathetic driving style (ie slight pause through the gate with the gear lever, to ease the work of the synchros)?

The only thing noticable on mine is 2nd can be a bit, well grabby shifting up from 1st. Downshifts to 2nd seem to be perfect, though, so it does seem that a bit of a pause helps things run smoothly.

Higher gears seem fine. Sometimes reverse needs a declutch before being able to shift into it.

What's the going rate at a dealers for gearbox replacement?
 

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I don't know about inevitable but there are a lot out there that have had to have replacements! It's the syncyro gears/hubs that fail, apparently.
Any kind of tlc will do it good, we all know cars are female lol.

Dealer price? Mine wanted over £1k for a new box, independant rebuild was 1/2 that, no need to pay for the casing, it's the inners that break!

To change the oil you have to suck it out, there is no drain plug :(

Hope that helps.

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Thanks for that link Mark, even if a 3 day trip to the Capital isn't a viable option, I' ll see if they can supply the parts at a reasonable cost. Actually getting used to driving it with the problem, but as sure as eggs are eggs it's gonna get worse.
Regards
Graham.
 
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