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Hi,

I last had my 2017 Optima software/maps update in December 2019 and I believe a newer version was released sometime in 2020. Can anyone comment on wether anything of note came out in the latest release that would make the cost of a dealer update (£45?) worth it.

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Hi,

I last had my 2017 Optima software/maps update in December 2019 and I believe a newer version was released sometime in 2020. Can anyone comment on wether anything of note came out in the latest release that would make the cost of a dealer update (£45?) worth it.

Cheers.
2020 SW Update made some significant changes to the visuals. Suggest you search the forum for the main SW thread for more info but a quick summary (but not all) is;

a) GPS Speed now displayed above the Road Speed Limit which has moved to the top left
b) map colours changed and option to select various shades (3 I think)
c) Junction graphic guide appears when in navigation, and approaching a junction, similar to the one that was delivered on Motorway diverging roads/turn outs.
d) Obviously Mapping updates have been made
e) warnings changed for speed / safety camera warnings and some changes in options
f) some changes to radio interface e.g. DAB station Logos changed
g) Street name now displayed in shaded banner at bottom of screen
h) think an option to select different route is now offered on navigation screen (but not yet seen this work)
i) mobile phone battery state display no longer shown on top 'connection' bar display
 

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There is a speed alert when you enter a average speed camera zone if your speed will take you above the average. And the price is now £70, although some dealers appear to be quoting £40.
 

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2020 SW Update made some significant changes to the visuals. Suggest you search the forum for the main SW thread for more info but a quick summary (but not all) is;

a) GPS Speed now displayed above the Road Speed Limit which has moved to the top left
b) map colours changed and option to select various shades (3 I think)
c) Junction graphic guide appears when in navigation, and approaching a junction, similar to the one that was delivered on Motorway diverging roads/turn outs.
d) Obviously Mapping updates have been made
e) warnings changed for speed / safety camera warnings and some changes in options
f) some changes to radio interface e.g. DAB station Logos changed
g) Street name now displayed in shaded banner at bottom of screen
h) think an option to select different route is now offered on navigation screen (but not yet seen this work)
i) mobile phone battery state display no longer shown on top 'connection' bar display
Hi Radiorail

Thanks so much for your detailed reply, much appreciated. There's some nice additions there but I'm not sure I'd pay the update charge for them, particularly if it's as much as mr.macspot posted.
 

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There is a speed alert when you enter a average speed camera zone if your speed will take you above the average. And the price is now £70, although some dealers appear to be quoting £40.
Hi mr.macspot

£70! SEVENTY!!!!

It used to be that Kia only permitted dealers to charge a flat £25, that's what my last update cost me. Did that go out of the window last year now that dealers are deperate to recoup lost income due to you-know-what?
 

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Hi Radiorail

Thanks so much for your detailed reply, much appreciated. There's some nice additions there but I'm not sure I'd pay the update charge for them, particularly if it's as much as mr.macspot posted.
I was charged £40 - when associated with a service.

My main reason for upgrading is to get mapping updates - I have been caught out by new/changed road junctions (one causing a 5 mile detour) and getting speed limits updated (I have a Stonic which does not have a in car speed board reading camera) I am surrounded by country roads with illogical 60 / 50 zones & average speed zones so the car display gives a good confidence check.

BTW The 2020 update delivered considerably more visual/system 'improvements' than previous years so could be considered a 'major' upgrade.
 

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Hi mr.macspot

£70! SEVENTY!!!!

It used to be that Kia only permitted dealers to charge a flat £25, that's what my last update cost me. Did that go out of the window last year now that dealers are deperate to recoup lost income due to you-know-what?
Ah £70. I dream of £70. My previous manufacturer wanted best part of £200 to update the HERE maps once, released 4 times a year. I graciously declined and bought a Garmin with Lifetime Map Updates for &170.


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Hi mr.macspot

£70! SEVENTY!!!!

It used to be that Kia only permitted dealers to charge a flat £25, that's what my last update cost me. Did that go out of the window last year now that dealers are deperate to recoup lost income due to you-know-what?
Apologies I've made a typo, it should be £40 not £70.
It's all relative I suppose. If you look at the likes of Mercedes, BMW and the like it's three and four times more than that. And at least one manufacturer charges to set up the car for either Android or Apple. I don't think £40 is unreasonable, but that is just my opinion.
 

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Fair enough - I'll pay for the update then. I assume they'll be another update released around April so may wait for that first.
Usually updates are released in the second quarter of the year, except last year it was delayed until the September. My experience is that dealers start offering media/sat nav updates around June time and you have to request them, they are not done as part of the cars service.
 

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Hi,

I last had my 2017 Optima software/maps update in December 2019 and I believe a newer version was released sometime in 2020. Can anyone comment on wether anything of note came out in the latest release that would make the cost of a dealer update (£45?) worth it.

Cheers.
A month ago I bought a 2018 Optima Sportswagon and rang my nearest KIA dealer in Kent, they quoted £45.
Am since end lockdown at our other house in Northumberland and rang KIA dealer he quoted £25! I am sure as it is a labour intensive job wages in Kent are not 80% higher, also for what it is it smacks of profiteering, nothing like good customer relations to do this stuff for free! All it entails is sticking an SD card in a computer, doesn’t need a trained engineer for that.
 

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A month ago I bought a 2018 Optima Sportswagon and rang my nearest KIA dealer in Kent, they quoted £45.
Am since end lockdown at our other house in Northumberland and rang KIA dealer he quoted £25! I am sure as it is a labour intensive job wages in Kent are not 80% higher, also for what it is it smacks of profiteering, nothing like good customer relations to do this stuff for free! All it entails is sticking an SD card in a computer, doesn’t need a trained engineer for that.
The old Kia recommended price was £25 that recommendation increased last year to £40. Kia make the point though that a garage can charge what they like (AKA can get away with) !
 

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I had my map update last week and asked and was told that it is this year's version. That's 2021.
Driving from Northumberland to Kent yesterday I was told to turn left on the A14 junction 14 of the A1(M)! Since the 21 mile section of the new A14 opened in December 2019, this is now the A1307, all the way to the M11 it was trying to guide me to the old A14. Not a very good update if you ask me. I shall try and determine the version and contact the dealer. This cannot be described as a current update if data still has not been updated since December 2019!
 

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I had my map update last week and asked and was told that it is this year's version. That's 2021.
Driving from Northumberland to Kent yesterday I was told to turn left on the A14 junction 14 of the A1(M)! Since the 21 mile section of the new A14 opened in December 2019, this is now the A1307, all the way to the M11 it was trying to guide me to the old A14. Not a very good update if you ask me. I shall try and determine the version and contact the dealer. This cannot be described as a current update if data still has not been updated since December 2019!
This years version start with EUR.13 for the maps.
 

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Had the 2021 update and was charged £40. The colours and presentation of the maps have had a major revamp. In my opinion, a backward step as the presentation is terrible and very hard to follow. No different colours for different class of road so no difference between motorway, trunk, major or minor. Whoever signed it off as 'fit for purpose' needs a real kick up the backside. Had I seen it beforehand I would not have had it installed. Save your money and wait to see if a later version reverts to the previous easy to read format.
 

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Had the 2021 update and was charged £40. The colours and presentation of the maps have had a major revamp. In my opinion, a backward step as the presentation is terrible and very hard to follow. No different colours for different class of road so no difference between motorway, trunk, major or minor. Whoever signed it off as 'fit for purpose' needs a real kick up the backside. Had I seen it beforehand I would not have had it installed. Save your money and wait to see if a later version reverts to the previous easy to read format.
I don't look the map screen very much much while I'm driving, I just listen to the guidance and watch the road. But I think the colours are okay.
 
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