[Newbie to Kia]

Sorry but it's not.

Can you point to anything written on this thanks ?

 

[tickedon]

Can you point to anything written on this thanks ?

I can.

The way car tax is calculated is changing – Inside DVLA

Regular updates for DVLA's stakeholders, commercial customers and suppliers.

insidedvla.blog.gov.uk

 

[dhb]

However it is specified by the dealer at the point they register the vehicle and that's where some of the differences seem to come in. As it's open to interpretation as to what the list price is, or indeed what they put it down as more importantly.

 

[xtrailman]

Can you point to anything written on this thanks ?

Try the government website or FB Sportage 22 UK.

 

[Newbie to Kia]

However it is specified by the dealer at the point they register the vehicle and that's where some of the differences seem to come in. As it's open to interpretation as to what the list price is, or indeed what they put it down as more importantly.

It looks like there is confusion out there from posts to this thread and also because of your experience in dealing with a dealer and mine too. I also noticed this very recent article from Heycar on the topic. I guess folks will find out soon enough but the treatment of delivery costs could make quite a lot of difference to some folks.

What does On The Road price (OTR) mean?

On The Road (OTR) and Recommended Retail Price (RRP) are all abbreviations you might come across when buying a new car, here we explain what they mean.

heycar.co.uk

 

[Newbie to Kia]

I can.

The way car tax is calculated is changing – Inside DVLA

Regular updates for DVLA's stakeholders, commercial customers and suppliers.

insidedvla.blog.gov.uk

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Thanks. Looks like a minefield if you go online and see questions to Honest John and other sites where advice is conflicting to say the least. Some say go back to the dealer for cars already sold etc.

 

[Newbie to Kia]

Try the government website or FB Sportage 22 UK.

Have you tried the government website ? I think this is why there is so much confusion.

 

[iooi]

Want to work out if you are under or over.

There is a .gov site that will tell you.

New or used car : Directgov - Find new cars and show fuel running costs

 

[Newbie to Kia]

Want to work out if you are under or over.

There is a .gov site that will tell you.

New or used car : Directgov - Find new cars and show fuel running costs

Yep - takes you to the List Price issue !

 

[Aerofly]

This is one of the best explanations I’ve found, the extract (in quotes””) is taken from the Heycar website…..

“What’s the difference between On The Road and List price?
‘On The Road’ (OTR) price is essentially the total cost to buy a new car and drive it on the road legally. That means you're covered for the car's first year of registration, its new number plates, road tax, pre delivery inspection, delivery charges to the point of purchase, insurance, any finance handling fees and, more often than not, some fuel in the tank.

It can easily amount to a few hundred pounds or more depending on the car. VAT will also be factored into this price, as will any discounts that have been offered on the car.

‘List price’ is the price of the basic car in white including any options, but excludes the items listed above that you need to break your new car out onto the road. Basically, all the stuff the OTR price includes. “

………..

It’s this manufacturer’s ‘List Price’ (at the point of first registration) that is used to ascertain whether the vehicle is liable for the ‘over £40,000’ luxury tax, payable for years 2 to 6 of the vehicles life, which at present time (from April ‘22) is the standard rate of £165 plus the luxury rate of £355 making an annual rate of £520.

 

[tomkerry]

Sportage GT-Line S HEV 2wd in two tone

Was 39,200 for VED purposes pre price increase, so as long as the price increase isn’t more than £800. We will be fine, rumoured to be approx £750

 

[iooi]

Sportage GT-Line S HEV 2wd in two tone

Was 39,200 for VED purposes pre price increase, so as long as the price increase isn’t more than £800. We will be fine, rumoured to be approx £750

Don't forget the possible 20% VAT on the £750

If Kia just add the £750 to the basic price. Rather than the after VAT

 

[PeterSportage]

Price rise won’t affect you if you’ve signed the order form as stated by trading standards. They’ve taken your order and deposit at a quoted price. 👍

 

[Pete74]

^^^^^
I am not so sure about not having to pay the increased price. The standard KIA sales terms quite clearly say " If----manufacturers price for the goods is increased you will be notified of the increase we intend to pass on to you.You have the right to cancel within 14 days-------any deposit will be returned to you" (lifted from para 7)c) of the t&c.
This leaves the seller with the option of passing on any price increase between order and the purchaser taking ownership of the goods. Whilst it is likely that the seller would not pass on the increase they certainly have the right to do so within the contract you have with KIA.
I guess it depends at what price the vehicle is 'charged' to them by KIA. i.e the price at date of their order to KIA rather than the price at time of sale.

 

[PeterSportage]

Can’t see anything written into my contract regards price increase but there is something regards px depreciation so hopefully we won’t have to pay any increase.

 

[Westcountryman]

Just as an aside, I found this information on the WWW if anyone is not happy with the price rise and if it is passed onto you regarding your deposit paid and if the dealer wants more of your money than what was agreed at contract signing

"if the price goes up and the dealer cannot honour the original contract because of a price rise from the manufacturer, and you refuse to pay the increased price, they can cancel the contract and refund your deposit."

 

[PeterSportage]

This is turning out to be exspensive. Let’s hope it’s not too much of a price increase then. We should find out tomorrow 😁

 

[Pete74]

Can’t see anything written into my contract regards price increase but there is something regards px depreciation so hopefully we won’t have to pay any increase.

Peter,
It is in the standard KIA Vehicle SalesTerms and Conditions. You should have signed and been given a copy when you ordered. If you ordered via a 3rd party there will be something in their T&C to cover it.

 

[PeterSportage]

Peter,
It is in the standard KIA Vehicle SalesTerms and Conditions. You should have signed and been given a copy when you ordered. If you ordered via a 3rd party there will be something in their T&C to cover it.

Just have to bite the bullet and pay it then. I’ve waited too long to drop out now. Really want the car 🥲🥲

 

[xtrailman]

^^^^^
I am not so sure about not having to pay the increased price. The standard KIA sales terms quite clearly say " If----manufacturers price for the goods is increased you will be notified of the increase we intend to pass on to you.You have the right to cancel within 14 days-------any deposit will be returned to you" (lifted from para 7)c) of the t&c.
This leaves the seller with the option of passing on any price increase between order and the purchaser taking ownership of the goods. Whilst it is likely that the seller would not pass on the increase they certainly have the right to do so within the contract you have with KIA.
I guess it depends at what price the vehicle is 'charged' to them by KIA. i.e the price at date of their order to KIA rather than the price at time of sale.

my dealer stated that I won't have to pay any increase, but if unhappy
about paying luxury tax I could cancel and get back my deposit..