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Kia Sat Nav - European Coverage

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#1 ·
We are picking up our new car (GTLS HEV) on 1st April and will be off to France shortly afterwards.
I have 2 questions.
1. Does the standard Kia sat nav include Europe. My current 2016 Sorento's does and hoping the new Sportage will too.
2. My understanding is the headlights can be switched over for right hand driving or may even do so automatically when the sat nav picks up the border crossing. Is this correct?

I know there are options like Google Maps, Waze etc which operate via Android Auto and will cover the EU, but I would prefer to use the built in system if possible to limit data use while roaming. Plus the Kia system in my Sorento has been fine all over Europe so far so would assume the Sportage one works just as well?
 
#4 ·
Hi, I've had 2 new GT-Line Sportage's (one 2017 model & one 2020 model) and they both had/have touchscreen sat-nav with European mapping & traffic messaging channel installed as standard. I believe Kia uses TomTom software/mapping/traffic.

I have family living in France now, so do make use of the European maps and will do so again in my 2023 Sportage GT-Line S HEV after it arrives from the dealership the day before you get yours.

Do remember that for new Kias sold from May 2021, owners can get 2 updates of the sat-nav's maps etc. free of charge, using the “over-the-air/OTA” method. However, once you've used the two free OTA updates, you can then only get further updates by either going online at update.kia.com/EU/E1/Main or at a Kia main dealership.

When you think about it, many of the car's modern safety systems rely on the navigation system data "behind the scenes" - whether you are actually using the nav system or not - so it's essential that Kia installs both UK & Continental maps for safety reasons. That's why updating the maps from time to time is helpful & could prove important e.g. when a road's posted speed limits get changed etc. etc.

Re the dual LED adaptive headlamps fitted on your car when driving on the continent, like many manufacturers Kia's UK user manuals really could be better written/clearer about driving on the right (see attached extract from the Sportage HEV & PHEV user manual). Please do your own further research on this point and do not just rely on the following, which is my own personal interpretation of the attached (and from me reading other bits & pieces elsewhere & also talking to one of the staff at my local Kia main dealership's parts dept. yesterday...) and should not be relied upon!

My belief is that:

- The headlamps do not automatically adjust their aim/beam pattern just because you drive off of the ferry/out of the tunnel at Calais or wherever i.e. I don't think the headlamps are linked to the navigation system in any way. So if you're on a French road with no other traffic ahead of you or approaching you, then all of the LEDs in your main low beam (and in your main high beam if you have high beam on) will be illuminated and the beam(s) will point towards/be biased towards the left, exactly as they would if you were driving in UK.

- However, for models fitted with the dual LED adaptive headlamps, they are linked to the car's camera system (near the rear view mirror). The camera system should pick-up the headlights of approaching vehicles and the rear lights of vehicles you are following and should then automatically switch off one or more of the LEDs inside the main low beam headlamps (and one or more LEDs inside the high beam headlamps if they are in use - hence the "dual adaptive" description), to avoid dazzling other drivers.

- On well-lit Continental roads, it might also be courteous to move the main low beam height down one notch, using the headlamp level adjustment switch located near the parking brake switch. However, at night on poorly lit/unlit roads or or in reduced visibility conditions this could be dangerous of course, especially at higher speeds so each driver must judge whether to do this in the individual prevailing circumstances/conditions.

- I'm not sure whether the lighting system will switch off individual LEDs to avoid dazzling pedestrians etc. at night, so again on low speed well-lit urban roads if/when safe to do so, moving the main low beam one notch lower if safety considerations allow might be the courteous thing to do.

Hope that points you in the right direction at least.

Enjoy your new car and and its inbuilt nav system!
 

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#6 ·
You can activate ‘Travel Mode‘ for the lighting when going to the continent. This can even be set in the app under Vehicle Settings > Lights

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Hi Nic027.

One of the other sources I read on this topic suggested that this “Travel Mode” option only appears on the dashboard menu in cars not fitted with dual adaptive headlamps, which is just one of the reasons why KIA decided to publish separate user manuals for different equipment levels within the new Sportage range. Since I won’t get a look at the menu on my new Sportage GT-Line S HEV Auto AWD until some time next Friday at the earliest, I won’t know for sure until then. As I said before, Kia is just one of many manufacturers whose advice on this important topic is, at best, as clear as mud!
 
#7 ·
My GT Line S MHEV with dual adaptive LED headlights has travel mode, I haven’t tried ticking the box to see what it does mind.

You’re getting a fantastic car, and using those adaptive headlight on main beam is rather addictive 😁

Got to agree, the manual is about as useful as a chocolate teapot for the most part.
 
#11 ·
@Nic027 I didn't get a chance to "play" with the new car on Friday, as it was delivered at 7.35 a.m. in the rain (typical) & the rain seemed to get even worse as the day went on, so I left it pretty much alone until yesterday!

I played with the menus in the car, found the travel mode box & ticked it. When I restarted the car, it then warned me that the headlamps were set up for driving on the right, so I unticked the box until I next find myself at Cheriton waiting for a Eurotunnel train to France later this year.

I've also pre-programmed my daughter & son-in-law's home address in mid-west France into the sat-nav as a favourite, talk about keen!

Perfectly legal headlights for Europe sorted - and no longer any need for stickers/adapters on the headlamp lenses like on my 2017 & 2020 Sportages - thanks very much indeed. (y)
 
#14 ·
My understanding of the LED lights and Europe is this.

The trims (4 and GTLS?) fitted with 'dual adaptive' or as they are called in the manual 'intelligent front lighting sytems' will have a travel mode option. In effect what I think this does is to switch off the adaptive function so they operate as a standard auto high/low beam. That is how it worked on my Skoda and Volvo.

I am pretty certain that the standard full LED headlights on other trims with auto high beam comply with EC standards. That means they have symmetrical, flat low beam (or passing beam as it is called in the EU Regs) patterns that do not need any adjustment or stickers.

However, these are just my opinions. I will be checking with KIA for formal technical before using mine in Europe this summer.
 
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#15 ·
(Finally) Picked mine up yesterday and at handover I asked the dealer about this. He didn't know but went off and checked. Came back and confirmed that for the GTLS ,'Travel Mode' corrects the headlamp beams for right hand driving but some lower spec models do need beam deflectors. I've looked at a spare pair of deflectors I have left over from my old car and the instructions do include the 2022+ Sportage so my guess is those without adaptive LED headlights need beam deflectors.

Spent a bit of time playing with the Kia nav for my trips to France and although a bit fiddley (mainly due to France not using road specific post codes) it's found all the addresses I need so far. Didn't realise the app can add addresses so have input work and sent to car and will try it out for the commute on Monday morning (if nothing else to see how it copes and routes me)