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Hi,
Having a few issues with my Kia Ceed. Would appreciate some ideas on how to fix.
Im based in Walsall, West Midlands.

1)
When trying to start the car, it doesn't tick over.
Feels like the immoboliser is stopping the engine even attempting to start.
So when its in Park and I try to start the car, sometimes itndoesnt, so I have to put it into Neutral to start.

2)
When its in Drive, sometimes it feels like it 'pops' out of drive and into neutral as i lose acceleration, but the revs remain.

3)
The Traction Control light sometimes stays on also, regardless how many times i press the TC button.

4)
The Engine Management Light is on, and I have read the codes with a BlueDriver OBD device. Ive triedbresetting the codes, but the EML stays on.
The codes are:
P0700 - Transmission Control System (MIL request)
P0707 - Transmission Range Circuit Low.

I have tried checking the level of the ATF (Auto Trans. Fluid), its between the 2 dots at the bottom and 2 dots at the top.
So about half way.
The way i checked it was both letting the car idle once warm then pulling the Red ATF dipstick out and checking.
Also checked when car was warmed up and off/not idling.

Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you.
 

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So when its in Park and I try to start the car, sometimes itndoesnt, so I have to put it into Neutral to start.

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When its in Drive, sometimes it feels like it 'pops' out of drive and into neutral as i lose acceleration, but the revs remain.
I had this issue a couple of months ago, which seems very similar to yours but without the EML lamps. Initially it seemed that the gear selector was somewhat misaligned with he gears. The telltale sign of this was that if you tried to put the selector in '3' on the display it would not stay in '3' unless you held down the gear lever. The situation slowly got worse when I had the car jump out of gear two or three times, and at the same time I also wasn't able to start the car in Park.

Although I knew the fault was with the selector, the difficulty was that no garage wanted to touch the car (I must have tried half a dozen) as the fact that it was an automatic, so in the end I had to take it to an automatic gearbox specialist, and as I expected there was just a seized up joint in the selector switch. No parts were required and there was the minimum about charge. Now everything works perfectly once again; I can recommend the garage in Blaby, Leics; but it might be a bit far for you to drive from the West Midlands.
 

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I had this issue a couple of months ago, which seems very similar to yours but without the EML lamps. Initially it seemed that the gear selector was somewhat misaligned with he gears. The telltale sign of this was that if you tried to put the selector in '3' on the display it would not stay in '3' unless you held down the gear lever. The situation slowly got worse when I had the car jump out of gear two or three times, and at the same time I also wasn't able to start the car in Park.

Although I knew the fault was with the selector, the difficulty was that no garage wanted to touch the car (I must have tried half a dozen) as the fact that it was an automatic, so in the end I had to take it to an automatic gearbox specialist, and as I expected there was just a seized up joint in the selector switch. No parts were required and there was the minimum about charge. Now everything works perfectly once again; I can recommend the garage in Blaby, Leics; but it might be a bit far for you to drive from the West Midlands.
Hi,

Can you send me the details of this garage, and the person who you spoke to/did the work?
Its not too far, around 45mins or so.

I'd rather go to someone that's seen this type of fault before.

Did you see how they solved it? Was it done via the cabin, i.e. lifting out the trim to gain access to the gear selector, or was it done outside/under the vehicle?

Today im replacing the Neutral Safety Switch that is also a common problem. It's an easy fix, so I will do this regardless.

Cheers.
 

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OK Guys,

So I have replaced the Neutral Safety Switch (Kia call it the Inhibitor Switch) part number 4270023010.
I still have the Engine Management Light on and still can not start the car in Park. I have to put it into Neutral.

So next step is to replace the Brake Switch (part number 938103K000).
Hopefully this will solve the issue.
 

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Ive now replaced brake switch.
Ive also opened up the gear selector to see if the by pressing the brake pedal the auto lock switch (stops driver from moving the gear stick out of Park without first pressing and holding down the brake pedal) disengages. It remains engaged when in Park, but if its in any other gear, pressing the brake pedal moves the solenoid, which disengages the auto lock switch.

Unsure why its not working for Park however.

Round up of issues:
1. Cannot start car in Park (have to put it in Neutral)
2. Trying to put the car into gear 1 is near impossible and gear 2 is very hard. Feels like im forcing the cable to stretch.
3. The EML and Traction Control lights are still on
constantly.
4. Auto lock switch does not disengage when in Park and pressing the brake pedal.
 

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Hi,

Can you send me the details of this garage, and the person who you spoke to/did the work?
Its not too far, around 45mins or so.

I'd rather go to someone that's seen this type of fault before.

Did you see how they solved it? Was it done via the cabin, i.e. lifting out the trim to gain access to the gear selector, or was it done outside/under the vehicle?

Today im replacing the Neutral Safety Switch that is also a common problem. It's an easy fix, so I will do this regardless.

Cheers.
It was D&K Autos in Blaby, you can do an internet search to get the details. I think I got charged an hours' labour at something like 65 pounds, though it may have taken them less time. They did check the oil in the gearbox which they said was fine and at the right level, but I have no idea what exactly they did. Prior to taking it there I did YouTube searches as I thought the Hyundai/KIA auto gearbox with the 1.6CRDi was used in quite a number of cars, but drew a blank. What I found refreshing was that there was no attempt to generate extra profit by suggesting I change ATF or gearbox oil despite the car being over ten years old and presumably having had no maintenance on those bits - they said everything else was fine. Although I don't think they get many KIAs to repair (most of the cars there were VW/Audi or Land Rover), they seemed very competent.
 

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It was D&K Autos in Blaby, you can do an internet search to get the details. I think I got charged an hours' labour at something like 65 pounds, though it may have taken them less time. They did check the oil in the gearbox which they said was fine and at the right level, but I have no idea what exactly they did. Prior to taking it there I did YouTube searches as I thought the Hyundai/KIA auto gearbox with the 1.6CRDi was used in quite a number of cars, but drew a blank. What I found refreshing was that there was no attempt to generate extra profit by suggesting I change ATF or gearbox oil despite the car being over ten years old and presumably having had no maintenance on those bits - they said everything else was fine. Although I don't think they get many KIAs to repair (most of the cars there were VW/Audi or Land Rover), they seemed very competent.
Hi, i've had to book it into Kia as I needed the daily driver back on the road asap.
Im taking it down this morning so I will tell them to take a look at the items you suggested.

Cheers.
 
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