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Well I've owned my 2008 Sedona GS 2.9D manual since last June and the glow plug light has been flashing the entire time. It does as you would expect at start up, comes on for a few seconds then goes out when you start the engine. But then a minute or so later sarts flashing and carries on until you turn off the ignition.
Finally got fed up with it and the sun came out and I had 5 mins spare all on the same day!!

I took of the the electrical connection bar that joins the 4 glow plugs together, easy apart from loosing one of the little 10mm nuts


Measured the resistance of the glow plugs, or more to the point tried to they were all knackered 3 read open circuit and one very high resistance. (should be about 1.5 Ohms ish ie almost short circuit)

Phew thinks I nice easy job, I'll pop down to the motor factors place I use and get a set should be about £10 to £15 each from previous experience. Phoned them up, "sorrywe don't list one for that model"

Called KIA dealer here in Ipswich and luckily I was sitting down!! £88 EACH
for glow plugs!! at least Dick Turpin wore a mask for daylight robbery!!

Tried a few other places similar story "it's probably this one XXX but you might want to check"

So I took out one of the glow plugs and it's and NGK Y535J, onto google and hardly any refernces to it.

Spoke to a few more suppliers and one very helpful lady at SSL said it may not have been released yet ring NGK.

Called NGK technical and spoke to a chap who has clearly had the same conversation before "Kia Sedona, dont tell me sir Y535J that one isn't available in a yellow NGK box only a Kia box"

He wasn;'t keen to work out a cheper equivalent either.

Fortuneately whilst it was out I took a few measurements (approx 160mm long)
Full NGK catalouge is avilable on line so may be able to work it out:-
Y=Sheathed
5=10mm Double coil
3=12v
5=stock number
J=Self regulating metal

Now to find some at sensible price. Anyone got any ideas?

Is what Kia are doing by not releasing it price fixing? I think there are laws against that!

Keith
 

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Well I've owned my 2008 Sedona GS 2.9D manual since last June and the glow plug light has been flashing the entire time. It does as you would expect at start up, comes on for a few seconds then goes out when you start the engine. But then a minute or so later sarts flashing and carries on until you turn off the ignition.
Finally got fed up with it and the sun came out and I had 5 mins spare all on the same day!!

I took of the the electrical connection bar that joins the 4 glow plugs together, easy apart from loosing one of the little 10mm nuts


Measured the resistance of the glow plugs, or more to the point tried to they were all knackered 3 read open circuit and one very high resistance. (should be about 1.5 Ohms ish ie almost short circuit)

Phew thinks I nice easy job, I'll pop down to the motor factors place I use and get a set should be about £10 to £15 each from previous experience. Phoned them up, "sorrywe don't list one for that model"

Called KIA dealer here in Ipswich and luckily I was sitting down!! £88 EACH
for glow plugs!! at least Dick Turpin wore a mask for daylight robbery!!

Tried a few other places similar story "it's probably this one XXX but you might want to check"

So I took out one of the glow plugs and it's and NGK Y535J, onto google and hardly any refernces to it.

Spoke to a few more suppliers and one very helpful lady at SSL said it may not have been released yet ring NGK.

Called NGK technical and spoke to a chap who has clearly had the same conversation before "Kia Sedona, dont tell me sir Y535J that one isn't available in a yellow NGK box only a Kia box"

He wasn;'t keen to work out a cheper equivalent either.

Fortuneately whilst it was out I took a few measurements (approx 160mm long)
Full NGK catalouge is avilable on line so may be able to work it out:-
Y=Sheathed
5=10mm Double coil
3=12v
5=stock number
J=Self regulating metal

Now to find some at sensible price. Anyone got any ideas?

Is what Kia are doing by not releasing it price fixing? I think there are laws against that!

Keith


Kia I would imagine make more money from parts than they do with selling complete cars like most manufacturers do, I would imagine there is some kind of timeline by which Kia/Ford/Etc can keep the parts to manufacturer only and then say 5/6/7/8 years afterwards they become available for parts manufacturers to make. Who knows it's Kia so it's anybodies guess
 

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Interesting - have you had a look at these
http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/glow-plugsThey are listed for your vehicle, although they are a lot shorter than the measurement you give - might be worth having a word with them. You really need to speak to a diesel specialist who may be able to cross reference them to another make.Looks like another case for the ever helpful Kia Customer Service
 

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My Search goes on, I've found them in Slovakia, Romania and ironically in the UShttp://www.autobazar.eu/sk/kia--hyundai--29-crdi--motor-code-j3-id3185092.html

I phoned KIA again just to check that the £88 was for 1 not 4 and they confirmed it's just the 1 !!

Part number is 36710-4X900

Often associated with Grand Carnival rather than Sedona

I seem to recall someone telling me the 2.9D is an old mercedes engine, does anyone know any more about that?

I left the glow plugs disconnected and get exactly the same syptoms so I think I'm on the right tracks.

Back to some more googling

Keith
 

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just a thought , the Hyundai terracan could be similar as the 2,9 in that was the same. ( Theyare the same co. )
 

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Thanks Gus, I thought of that and called the Hyundai dealer and thatmodel had the air heater arrangement similar to the earlier model Sedona. The chap in the parts dept did mention a tie up between Mitsubishi, Mercedes and Kia/Hyundai a few years back
 

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What make are your old ones .Kia tend to use BERU. If you go on euro carparts web site they list Beru for 2008 Sedona, i dont know whether if you have BERU the part numbers on them match, but are listed for your motor at about £15 apiece.I put some in my Sorento five weeks ago ,mine were a different number.
 

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Just a note i have had the Sorento from new so i know BERUwerethe originals
 

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Another thought; There was also a 2,5 terracan ( not a lot about ) which used glowplugs, might be worth finding out what size they were.
 

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Thanks, yes I tried Euro parts and they were helpful.
The two options they showed me were Denso DG174 and Beru GN107 which look virtually identical to each other but are about 88mm long were as the NGK Y-535J glow plugs in my sedona are approx 160mm long.

As I didn't have any problems starting it through the entire winter I may just fit a shorter glow plug just to get that light to go out.
 

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I have checked the old ones i took out of Sorento they measure 155 long and other measurements as on your list.The BERU number on them is 0 100 222 106 11v,the NGK equivalent is NGK Y 508 J. Hope this may be of help.
 

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BIRDMAN said:
I have checked the old ones i took out of Sorento they measure 155 long and other measurements as on your list.The BERU number on them is 0 100 222 106 11v,the NGK equivalent is NGK Y 508 J. Hope this may be of help.

Well done Birdman - looks about right
You can get a set of four off of Fleabay for £75 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NGK-Glow-Plugs-Y-508J-x4-/120841859663?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c22bc724f#ht_1493wt_1154

Although they are listed for the 2.5 Sorento as Birdman has said

Is this any usehttp://www.ngkpartfinder.co.uk/







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My quest continues!
Got some Denso DG189's, close but no cigar! overall length is close but threaded section is far to short and as the entire threaded section sits in the head when fitted they won't do the job.

Just spoke to NGK again and there is light at the end of the tunnel. The Y-535J part is in this years NGK uk catalogue due out soon and stock of them is due in the UK within the next 6-8 weeks. They will have a recommended price of £19 each. Unipart, Halfords, FPS etc will carry stock of them.

As I'm not having any problems starting my car I might just wate until they arrive.

Black 2008 manual GS will probably be for sale shortly after fitting them.
 

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Found some glow plugs on ebay Korea, good price $76 inc postage (about 48 quid) should be here next week. Will post link if all OK
 

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Glow plugs fitted and flashing light has stopped HURRRAHH!
It's a bit fiddly but not too bad.A peice of rubber gas hose from a BBQ will push over the glow plug and help turn once slackened. My 3/8 drive deep 10mm socket wouldn't quite fit into the gap under the common rail, but a deep 1/4 drive probably would. There is just enough room down the back of the common rail to get an open ended 10mm spanner onto the middle two glow plugs and slacken them off.I did notice that the buzz bar that connects the 4 glow plugs together is painted so I cleaned off the areas around the 4 contacts just to give a better connection.

Keith
 
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