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We have a 2007 2.9 diesel auto. The engine management light comes on under moderate load & stays on. It will oftenclear when the engine is turned off for a few minutes, if not then a couple of cycles of engine on/off will clear the EML. (this was a real pain while on holiday with the caravan!)



When it first happened I took the car to our local KIa dealer & they found nothing, nothing live/nothing stored, light was on when I arrived.There is no noticablechange in performance.



Took the car to our normal mechanic & he could find nothing with his system so booked in again with our local dealer Friday this week.



Any suggestions greatfully recived.



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its hard to say just by your description but you will find out when it is plugged into diagnostic equipment/ code reader which will bring up any fault codes.
 

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davy said:
its hard to say just by your description but you will find out when it is plugged into diagnostic equipment/ code reader which will bring up any fault codes.
Looks like they have already tried that ie no live or stored faults shown - had similar symptoms on mine and eventually found it was the alternator - replaced it and solved problem. I only found it by accident - had checked with diagnostic tool which showed no faults or stored faults - checked alternator output across the battery terminals and on first occasion it was putting out 14+volts when the EML was on it was only showing 12.8 volts which was the battery output with the engine off.
 

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its possibly the transmission fluid overheating or getting close to, if towing a caravan.i have heard that you can have the transmission module re-programmed to compensate this and i have also read that changing the fluid to fully synthetic cures the problem to.
before going ahead with this, i would try get the code read when it next happens as this is only 1 possibilty.
hope this helps.
 

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Thanks for the comments so far



Autobox overheating, I'm fairly sure this is not the cause since when we took it to our mechanic, about 2 miles from home, when we got there I pushed the gas pedal a bit more than normal & woops the EML came on.



side note:

I do plan on fitting an additional cooler rather thanre-programming the tranny module for towing. Any suggestions for the fully synthetic fluid? as that will be changed at the same time.



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Had the same problem with my EML when pulling our caravan. I phoned my dealer up and the fist question the macanic asked me was "had I put super market fuel in" yes I had. They changed the fuel filter which solved the problem. I still put super market fuel in but I mix it with proper garage fuel. I have not had the problem since.
 

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smpkw01 said:
Had the same problem with my EML when pulling our caravan. I phoned my dealer up and the fist question the macanic asked me was "had I put super market fuel in" yes I had. They changed the fuel filter which solved the problem. I still put super market fuel in but I mix it with proper garage fuel. I have not had the problem since.

Thanks Phil

As we've only had this Sedona a couple of months I can't comment on past fuels used, But I only use Shell where ever possible. The car was 'serviced' only a couple of months before we got it so should have a 'new' filter.

It's in the local dealer today, so we'll see what they find!!??



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smpkw01 said:
Had the same problem with my EML when pulling our caravan. I phoned my dealer up and the fist question the macanic asked me was "had I put super market fuel in" yes I had. They changed the fuel filter which solved the problem. I still put super market fuel in but I mix it with proper garage fuel. I have not had the problem since.
Is supermarket fuel different from garage fuel - I thought it all came from the same refineries and was delivered from central distribution centres to the suppliers. I remember when Tesco were selling contaminated fuel a couple of years back several smaller garages had also been supplied with the same fuel causing motorists to have problems.
 

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Does anyone know exactly what parameters the Engine Management light is monitoring ?


There have been quite a few posts recently solutions / causes seem to vary from faulty Alternator, gearbox oil overheating, fuel filters need changing, or wrong fuel supplier.


I had a recent incident of the light coming on, I never use Supermarket diesel, usually get my fuel from the same Jet station, but did fill up from another place not supermarket but not one of the top brands before my issue with the light.


Since going back to my original supplier I have had no further incidents.


Coincidence ?? Who knows.


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Check with your dealer as there is a Kia bulletin regarding this IMV VALVE software upgrade...the dealers in Ireland were not awre of this as my code came on one day after filling up at a different forecourt....i have this somewhere..if i can find it i will post it up


Taff



Found it.....

C:\Documents and Settings\taff\My Documents\KFE08-14-P251-VQ C21VA carnival high pressure.htm
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Here it is again;



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Group</TD>
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Fuel System(14)</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
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KFE08-14-P251-VQ;C21VA</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
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Subject</TD></TR>
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MIL ILLUMINATED WITH P0088</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
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Published</TD>
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6/4/2008</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
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Field Fix</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
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1. Description


–  Symptom/Condition
Some CARNIVAL (VQ) J-2.9L VGT diesel vehicles may experience a malfunction indicator lamp illuminated
with P0088 stored in the ECM memories.
- P0088: Fuel rail pressure - Too high
–  Countermeasure/Remedy
Check first if the Inlet Metering Valve (IMV) has failed by following the IMV diagnostic test and data analytic
method below.
- If the test results show what is considered out of the ordinary, replace the IMV (A) with new one and
upgrade the ECM software.
- If the test results show what is considered ordinary, replace the high pressure fuel pumpwith new one.
[NOTE] For detailed procedures for theIMV and high pressure fuel pump replacement, refer to the
CARNIVAL (VQ) workshop manual.



2. Applicable Vehicles


– Model: CARNIVAL (VQ) vehicles with J-2.9L VGT diesel engines
–  Applicable vehicle production date: From March 2006 to December 2007
– Area: Europe


3. Parts Information


–  Inlet Metering Valve

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Valve - Inlet Metering</TD>
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33115-4X400</TD></TR></T></TABLE>


–  ROM ID Information Table
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Wheelbase</TD>
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Transmission</TD>
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Immobilizer</TD>
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ROM ID</TD></TR>
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PREVIOUS</TD>
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NEW</TD></TR>
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Short</TD>
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M/T</TD>
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39104-4X910</TD>
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N74VQS0EMID1
N75VQS0EMIA1
N76VQS0EMIA1
N76VQS0EMIA2
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N77VQS0EMIA1</TD></TR>
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A/T</TD>
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N74VQS0EAID1
N75VQS0EAIA1
N76VQS0EAIA1
N76VQS0EAIA2
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N77VQS0EAIA1</TD></TR>
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M/T</TD>
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N76VQS0EMIA3</TD>
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N77VQS0EMIA2</TD></TR>
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A/T</TD>
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N76VQS0EAIA3</TD>
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N77VQS0EAIA2</TD></TR>
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M/T</TD>
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39104-4X930</TD>
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N88VQS0EMIA1</TD>
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N88VQS0EMIA2</TD></TR>
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A/T</TD>
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N88VQS0EAIA1</TD>
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N88VQS0EAIA2</TD></TR></T></TABLE>

[NOTE]
- To verify the vehicle is affected, be sure to check the version of the vehicle's control unit ROM ID with
reference to the ROM ID Information Table mentioned above before attempting to upgrade the control
unit software.



4. Operation Code And Time
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NATURE</TD>
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35375F00</TD>
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IMV REPLACEMENT & ECM UPGRADE</TD>
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0.9 M/H</TD>
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N69</TD>
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C40</TD></TR>
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35375F01</TD>
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HIGH PRESSURE FUEL PUMP REPLACEMENT</TD>
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1.7 M/H</TD></TR></T></TABLE>


N69: Warning lights ON, C40: Improper Adjustment


5. Service Procedure
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IMV DIAGNOSTIC TEST & TEST RESULTS ANALYTIC METHOD</TD></TR></T></TABLE>




–  IMV DIAGNOSTIC TEST

1) Set up a scan tool to monitor the fuel rail pressure demand (A) and feedback (B).
2) Engine pre-condition
- Engine coolant temperature, no special requirement
- Transmission set in neutral or park
- Engine at idle with load (A/C, lights on, blower on, etc.)
3) Perform 7 fast accelerations by gas pedal (100%).
- Release the gas pedal when engine speed reaches 4,000 rpm.
- Wait 15 seconds between each acceleration.

–  TEST RESULTS ANALYSIS


1) On each acceleration, calculate the maximum fuel rail pressure undershoot.
If fuel rail pressure error (C) is over +350 bar at least 3 times, replace the IMV and upgrade the ECM.
- Fuel rail pressure error = Rail pressure demand - Rail pressure feedback
- Fuel rail pressure undershoot = Rail pressure error > 0
[NOTE] Overshoot is not representative of IMV failure.

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ECM UPGRADE</TD></TR></T></TABLE>


– CAUTIONS DURING CONTROL UNIT UPGRADE

1) Make sure the vehicle's battery has reasonable charge. If the vehicle has been in storage for days,
run the engine to assure an adequate battery charge state for reliable upgrade results.
2) Turn off all lamps (Do not leave head lamp switch in auto mode.) and all accessories (including heater,
A/C, blower, radio, seat warmer, defroster, etc.) not to allow the battery to be discharged during
upgrade.
3) Perform upgrade with the ignition switch in the ON position.
4) Be careful not to disconnect any cables connected to the vehicle or scan tool during upgrade.
5) Do not start the engine during upgrade.
6) Do not turn off the ignition switch during upgrade.



–  CONTROL UNIT UPGRADE PROCEDURE


1. GDS (Global Diagnostic System) INSTALLATION PROCEDURE
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A: Diagnostic terminal / B: VCI (Vehicle Communication Interface) / C: USB (Universal Serial Bus) cable
D: DLC cable (16-pin) / E: Power supply cable </TD></TR></T></TABLE>


1) Connect the power supply connector to the diagnostic terminal.
[NOTE]
- If attempting to perform the upgrade with the power supply cable disconnected from the diagnostic
terminal, make certain that the diagnostic terminal is charged enough for the upgrade. If not, the upgrade
may fail in progress. Therefore, it is strongly recommended to connect the power supply cable to the
diagnostic terminal during the upgrade procedure.
2) Connect the USB cable between the VCI and the diagnostic terminal.
[NOTE]
- When performing the upgrade using the GDS, wireless communication between the VCI and the
diagnostic terminal is NOT available. Therefore, be sure to connect the USB cable between the VCI and
the diagnostic terminal.
3) Connect the 16-pin DLC cable from the VCI into the vehicle's DLC connector under the driver side
instrument panel.
4) Turn on the VCI and diagnostic terminal with the ignition key in the ON position.
[NOTE] Do not start the engine.



2. AUTOMATIC UPGRADE PROCEDURE USING GDS


1) Choose VIN or ECU Upgrade on the initial screen.
2) Enter the vehicle information by entering the vehicle's VIN or selecting the vehicle model, model year,
engine/fuel type and ENGINE as the system and then click OK.
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3) Select ECU Upgrade on the initial screen after entering the vehicle information.
4) Select Auto Mode then ENGINE in the left ECU Upgrade column.
5) Read Preparation and click OK.
6) The GDS will read the vehicle's ROM ID.
7) After the Current ROM ID is displayed, select the Upgrade Event, "75. VQ 2.9 VGT IMV P0088."
8) After clicking the Upgrade button, read Information then click OK.
9) The vehicle battery voltage is checked to make sure it is at least 12 volts to assure reliable upgrade results.
Click OK if the results indicate Voltage is OK.
[NOTE]
- If voltage is below 12 volts, click Cancel and then run the engine to assure an adequate battery charge
state for reliable upgrade results.

10) Upgrade will begin and the progress of the upgrade will appear on the bar graph.
11) Upgrade will occur until 100% is reached on the bar graph. Turn the ignition key OFF for10 seconds,
place it back in the ON position and then click OK to continue according to Information displayed on the
screen.
12) Click OK on the final screen, which indicates upgrade is complete.
13) Check for any diagnostic trouble codes (DTC) and erase the DTC (s) present.
14) Start the engine to confirm proper operation of the vehicle.


3. MANUAL UPGRADE PROCEDURE


[CAUTION]
- Manual upgrade should be performed only when automatic upgrade fails.
- If automatic upgrade fails, turn the ignition key OFF for about 10 seconds, place it back in the ON
position to reset the control unit before performing manual upgrade.



1) Within the ECU Upgrade screen, select Manual Mode in the left column, then select Upgrade Event #75.
Select the appropriate control unit part number with reference to the above ROM ID Information Table
and click OK.
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2) Enter the appropriate password from the below table then click OK.
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MENU</TD>
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VQ 2.9 VGT MT +IMMO EURO: 39104-4X910</TD>
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4910</TD></TR>
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VQ 2.9 VGT AT +IMMO EURO: 39104-4X910</TD>
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4911</TD></TR>
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VQ 2.9 VGT MT +IMMO SWISS: 39104-4X910</TD>
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4912</TD></TR>
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VQ 2.9 VGT AT +IMMO SWISS: 39104-4X910</TD>
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4913</TD></TR>
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VQ 2.9 VGT MT +IMMO EURO: 39104-4X930</TD>
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4930</TD></TR>
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VQ 2.9 VGT AT +IMMO EURO: 39104-4X930</TD>
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4931</TD></TR></T></TABLE>


3) The vehicle battery voltage is checked to make sure it is at least 12 volts to assure reliable upgrade
results. Click OK if the results indicate Voltage is OK.
[NOTE]
- If voltage is below 12 volts, click Cancel and then run the engine to assure an adequate battery charge
state for reliable upgrade results.

4) Upgrade will begin and the progress of the upgrade will appear on the bar graph.
5) Upgrade will occur until 100% is reached on the bar graph. Turn the ignition key OFF for10 seconds,
place it back in the ON position and then click OK to continue according to Information displayed on the
screen.
6) Click OK on the final screen, which indicates upgrade is complete.
7) Check for any diagnostic trouble codes (DTC) and erase the DTC (s) present.
8) Start the engine to confirm proper operation of the vehicle.
 

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Thanks Taff, stunning stuff



The dealer did say there was a software update/upgrade which had to be done at the same time.



Do you know if this is a 'free' repair?

I mean the IMV & software, I've been told it will cost me £147.60
(I'm naturally tightfisted
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I am not sure, as here in Ireland they are a different company, Kia Ireland and not linked to Kia UK.
Kia Ireland stated they were not aware of this and asked where i obtained such info....so i have not had mine replaced, but the dealer stated that the software had been updated.....by whom i asked !!



My car is running well as i have the PowerBox fitted pumping out 230 brake, but i only use the same supplier for fuel



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HI Taff


Spoke with our local dealer today re the TSB & this being a known issue, asked if KIA were going to 'contribute' to the repair costs since this was a 'known' fault... seems they are going to ask for me and report back!!!!



I'll post back if I get anywhere.



Thanks again

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Any further updates on this thread from years ago please? My 2008 Sedona is doing the above. I've changed the IMV myself but wasnt aware of the software upgrade.
 
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