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Compared to my previous car where the electronic Handbrake activated almost instantly, the Handbrake in my Proceed seems quite slow to fully engage. Been caught out a few times on hills where I've expected the handbrake to fully engage as soon as I pull the switch and the car has rolled back a little. Is this normal for Kia or do I need to get it adjusted?
 

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Foot on brake first? You can usually hear the activation and then lift off
Yes, obviously have foot on brake first, then lift the handbrake switch when come to a stop. Perhaps my previous car's operation was a lot quicker and I just need to get used to the slower response. Don't hear anything when it operates due to being hard of hearing.
 

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Telltale on dash will come on. That’s your cue to come off the brakes. Is there no auto hold or hill assist ?
 

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Compared to my previous car where the electronic Handbrake activated almost instantly, the Handbrake in my Proceed seems quite slow to fully engage. Been caught out a few times on hills where I've expected the handbrake to fully engage as soon as I pull the switch and the car has rolled back a little. Is this normal for Kia or do I need to get it adjusted?
on my sportage i have an auto brake below the handbrake and when its turned on ( has to be manually turned on ) when i come to a stop i press the brake pedal a little harder and it activates then to release it just drive away
 

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on my sportage i have an auto brake below the handbrake and when its turned on ( has to be manually turned on ) when i come to a stop i press the brake pedal a little harder and it activates then to release it just drive away
Autobrake might also be called autohold (it is on my Niro). A bit confusing until you know.....
 
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Been caught out a few times on hills where I've expected the handbrake to fully engage as soon as I pull the switch and the car has rolled back a little.
As is often the case, the language used to describe various parts on cars can be confusing. The KIA name for what many of us remember as the 'Handbrake' is actually 'EPB', which should be self-explanatory.

Cars equipped with EPB are usually further equipped with the 'Autohold' feature which is one of the best (in my opinion) pieces of technology ever fitted to a car. I don't know if it exists with manual transmission but married to the DCT system, it provides a very relaxed and simple method of driving without the aggravation of all the left leg exercise and hand repeatedly switching from steering wheel to gearstick.

From previous posts in other threads, I gather that there are still people who choose not to activate the Autohold feature and pull on the EPB switch when required, then pull even harder because the car can be felt to move as if the brake hadn't applied fully. We then read of people complaining that the EPB switch has broken, claiming for example that the part is constructed from inferior material and it is somehow KIA's fault and not driver abuse.

Going off at a tangent, I have read similar questions with regard to the air conditioning feature we have nowadays on most family cars. It seems that some people choose to only activate the system occasionally, deciding for themselves when it is appropriate. Those of us who have been around from a time when a heater was an optional extra in some private cars have long been accustomed to leaving the a/c permanently switched on because the general consensus among the specialists is that that is better for the preservation and lifespan of the seals than the alternative which leads to premature ageing of those parts through drying out.

Any impact on mpg from using a/c is easily offset by driving sensibly, conserving the expensive stuff we put in the fuel tank. In my case, the a/c or 'Automatic Climate Control' as KIA describe the system in my Optima, has only ever been switched off a few times to check that the button actually works. Other than that, it has remained switched on ever since I collected it when it was unloaded from the transporter.

With regard to the OP's question, I would respectfully suggest that it might be more productive to utilise the appropriate sub-forum of the ProCeed forum, where other owners of that model have information on the actual model. I say that because not all those who look in on the forum actually read all the posts. Many only concern themselves with posts that relate to their particular model.
 

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@Indalo I did consider moving this to the ProCeed section, but as the subject is relevant to any Kia with EPB I felt it best to leave it here.
The EPB on our car has not been a problem, either with Auto-Hold or without it. It EPB happily operates and holds the car without fuss. I do choose not to use Auto-Hold in winter evenings as the brake lights stay on and I prefer not to blind the driver who is behind. The rest of the time I use it.

Edit; I should just add it hold the car and caravan, even on slopes.
 
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There is a definite issue with the EPB switches as this has come up a few times on the forum. Mine has failed, and when I collected the car from the dealer they said it was covered by the warranty, and they had six switches on back order for other customers.
 

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There is a definite issue with the EPB switches as this has come up a few times on the forum.
I'm afraid that because a few failures of the EPB switch have been recorded in these pages, it doesn't follow that there is an inherent problem with the switch. It's easy to jump to that conclusion but unless we know exactly how many have failed of the many thousands installed in various KIA products, then I find it equally fair to suggest that the likeliest problem is driver misuse. I'm pretty sure, at a guess, that the vast majority of drivers of EPB-equipped cars never experience any problem with the system which is not to say that there have never been instances of genuine component failure which can occur with any part in any vehicle.

Many years ago, when I earned my crust fixing motor vehicles, I remember numerous problems with ratchet handbrakes; the old lever type with a ratchet and pawl system. Invariably, those problems were down to driver misuse as, used correctly, there isn't really much to go wrong with that type of parking brake. It had the secondary function of emergency braking in the event of a hydraulic failure but if you can imagine a ratchet and pawl needing to be replaced because the teeth were worn out or chewed up, that wasn't because the manufacturer had used inappropriate metal in the construction; it was simply drivers being stupid and using the lever incorrectly.

Thankfully, my EPB continues to operate flawlessly and it is in use on every journey ever made in the car.
 

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I find it very difficult to see how you could wear out a manual handbrake ratchet, it isn't something I've ever had an issue with. But also this is the first time I've ever had a switch of any sort fail in 32 years of driving.

The fact that this has come up on the forum a few times, the dealer saying that this was a common issue, and them having 6 on back order, suggests to me that this is more likely to be a component issue.
 

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I find it very difficult to see how you could wear out a manual handbrake ratchet
How is it difficult? Any driver who wrenches on a handbrake lever without pressing the button on the end of the lever which engages the teeth constantly wears both sets of teeth. It is also worn laterally when the driver heaves the lever to one side every time it is used, rather than lifting the lever upwards in a straight line.

I can also remember vertical, floor-mounted handbrake levers which required to be pulled towards the rear of the car to engage although the mechanism was the same as the horizontal lever type. Rover 100/105/110 if memory serves me correctly. Moreover, I owned several Citroens with a handle just under the dashboard that needed to be pulled backwards, away from the dashboard which was different from the norm in that typical Citroen way. it wasn't as effective as a horizontal, vertical lift lever which requires an easier muscle movement to provide the necessary force than the straight backwards pull.

One should be cautious about condemning the EPB based on a few, not huge numbers, whinges from owners in these pages who have had problems. If you are able to provide factual information rather than the anecdotal material to which you allude, that would be informative as I suggest that the number of failures may be negligible when referenced against the number of installations.
 

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If we can only go on actual figures then we would never be able to say anything was a real issue, as apart from recalls car makers don't tend to give these figures out, and quite a few times they actually try and deny there is an issue when there is.

I can only go on the information I have, which points to the part not being the best quality.
 
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