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Hi, a few thousand miles ago at 58,000 my 04 mk2 carens was grinding slightly going into 3rd gear, the problem stopped after a couple of hundred miles and i have since had a new clutch fitted at 60,000 miles.
Recently it has started grinding slightly again when going into 3rd gear more so when going down the gears, i now have 62,000 miles on the clock, there is no problem selecting any gear at all, in fact it seems very smooth apart from 3rd gear although i can avoid the grind if i change gear very slowly and when pushing the gearstick from the bottom left of the knob.
I am hoping it is not the dreaded gearbox problem and wondered if there is anything worth trying first such as clutch cable or pedal adjustment or anything else before letting the garage take over.

EDIT:I dont actually have to force it into 3rd either it does slip into it very easily apart from the slight grind if i am not careful.




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The clutch is hydraulic, there's no cable and no adjustment possible at the pedal. It may be worth having a go at bleeding it, there may be some air in there, but it's probably most likely to be a dodgy synchro mechanism. If you do bleed the clutch, note that there's no seperate master cylinder, it shares the brake reservoir.

I'm curious though, are there any other symptoms? Does it slip or drag? Why was it changed at 60000? That's a pretty low mileage to be needing a clutch at. Was it done in an attempt to rectify what was actually a gearbox problem?
 

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It was a thrust bearing failure from this post http://www.kiaownersclub.co.uk/forum/vibration-15002000-revs-is-it-clutch_topic4744.html?KW=

There does not appear to be any other symptoms, if i have the car stood idling then all gears select very easily with no forcing of the gearstick, it is only when travelling that i have a problem with the 3rd gear grind.

Asi said above this did happen a few thousand miles ago and then disappeared completely, it just seems strange that if it was a syncro going then i would not have thought the grind would have gone away for a few thousand miles before coming back again.
 

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Identical symptoms to my 1st gearbox failure, sorry to say! 3rd gear synchro is notorious on this box, my advice would be to get a gearbox specialist to have a test drive.

PS: No need torebuildthe whole box, you can just replace the synchro & hub but if you intend to keep the car for a while I'd rebuild the lot then you should get a year or 12,000 mile warranty at the worst for added peace of mind.
 

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hawkwind said:
There does not appear to be any other symptoms, if i have the car stood idling then all gears select very easily with no forcing of the gearstick, it is only when travelling that i have a problem with the 3rd gear grind.
That seems to strongly suggest it probably is synchro issues - as does the comment about selecting the gear slowly.
 
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