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My Ceed has been back to the garage twice because of pulling left, last time I got a 10 Reg Rio to drive and this was almost as bad, has anyone else experienced this with the Rio.


It only had 700 miles on the clock too.
 

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Nope mines ok. 06 Rio diesel. If its a courtesy car maybe previous drivers have banged it off kerbs and knocked the tracking out.
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Thats what I was hoping to hear, I do believe the Electronic Power Steering in both the Ceed and Rio is really sensitive to camber/slope though, maybe because its so light. I was beginning to think it was a KIA 'pull'
 

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Yes, mine does...Kia obviously don't check the tracking when the car reaches the main dealer. I wouldn't bother going to a main dealer to get this sorted, you're best going for a full 4 wheel alighnment from a specialist garage.
 

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As a previous Rio owner this is a common problem, if the alignment is correct it must be the wheel camber. It is easily fixed and should be done under warranty,try another dealership if the one you use is not sorting it.
 

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The problem with the main dealers is they will usually only have the equipment to do a front wheel check, not a full 4 wheel check, so to get it sorted you have to go to a specialist.

With mine I think it's more of a problem of the steering wheel not being centred properly. I haven't bothered getting it sorted yet.

Kia will only warranty the tracking for the first 500 miles/first month, so if you buy a new Kia, check straight away!
 

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I noticed it was pronounced when I first got it but now at 6 months old I haven't paid much attention to it. Steering wheel is slight off centre too.
 

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I have driven both Rios and Ceeds over the last few months-and I have yet to find a 'level' steering wheel, and both cars do indeed go left-apparently they are 'camber sensitive', with the Ceed being the most 'officially' (according to KIA) sensitive.
I find it amazing that they make good cars but are unable to fit a level stering wheel-or am I just being picky-after all I only paid £11000 fora car, maybe if I paid a bit more-I would have got a level steering wheel!
 

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Had some spare time this morning so I thought I'd finally get this sorted.
Had a full 4 wheel alignment check and adjustment. Now my Rio goes in a straight line when the steering wheel is straight and it doesn't pull to the left significantly...when I let go of the wheel, it goes left very slowly, but that I can believe is down to road camber.



The handling is much better too...feels less like you are driving on ice and gives more confidence in the bends. I should have got this done months ago.



What annoys me is that this cost me £70 and Kia should have done it under warranty.
 

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My 06 Rio CRDI has the old oil power steering pump.Has the newish Rios' electric power steering like the Ceeds.
£70 for wheel alignment robbin barstewards.
. At mconechies in Paisley its £23 and thats the 4 wheel lazer alignment. They always do a great job and I wouldn't go anywhere else.
 

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Hi from another Newbie. Got my Rio from a Main Dealer about 3 weeks ago. Noticed early on that it pulled to the left. Very dramatic on motorways! My partner is very upset about it. She thinks it is damn near dangerous! We have taken it back to the garage twice now and they said yesterday that they do not have any more room for adjustment! She is gutted and very upset and stormed out of the garage. Very interested to hear other members comments. It would seem that other members have at least been able to find a garage that could fix it - at a price mind you. Our car is 2 years old - not a new one. The Rio was recommended by my brother who bought one for my sister in law as a economic run-about. Love the car, but cant stand all this pulling to the left! The garage have done the tracking and geometry test. They said they took the car to a specialist. The garage said that it came up as being within specification. They said they changed the rear wheels to the front. Where do we go from here? Can someone help?
 

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Hi Cliff welcome to the forum. I too have a Rio diesel and its a great
car. The problem you are having could be down to a warped tyre or a
tracking wheel alignment issue. I would take it to a tyre centre who
have a 4 wheel lazer alignment gauges. They should also tell you if the
camber is within the tolerence. This will true the whole car up. If the
problem is still persists I would swap both front wheels over and if it
pulls the other way then its a tyre problem.


I would assume the garage has checked all bushes and ball joints, brakes sticking on left side and also road springs on your car.

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In my case, not long after having the 4 wheel alignment done, it started pulling left again. I took it back to the main dealer and they said "The car just follows the camber of the road." However,lastweek on the continent, driving on the right, the car tended to go in a straight line!
Maybe the cars are just designed for driving on the right!
 

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The fact that the car went straight on a right camber road does suggest it pulls left. KIA admit their cars are camber sensitive (the Ceed being the most sensitive) but if it was a true camber pull, the car would go right on the continent.


I couldn't stand my Ceed (tried 2 of them) going left so swapped it for a Hyundai i30, esentially the same car but they do go straight.



Very happy with this car!
 

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IMHO I think the Ceed is a better lookin car than the Hyundai i30. I had 2 Ceeds 1.4S 07 plate and 1.4SR 08 plate and they both drove straight and I really liked the SR version. Due to work and money tho' I had to downsize to an 06 Rio diesel.
 

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davy said:
IMHO I think the Ceed is a better lookin car than the Hyundai i30. I had 2 Ceeds 1.4S 07 plate and 1.4SR 08 plate and they both drove straight and I really liked the SR version. Due to work and money tho' I had to downsize to an 06 Rio diesel.


I agree with the looks, but I couldn't stand years of dragging my right hand down on the wheel, but more than happy with the i30
 

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As I wrote in an earlier post, cant mind if it was to do with the Rio or Ceed my mates got a Toyota Auris 16 and it pulled to the left. After 2 visits to toyota and 2 wheel alignments done it was still pulling left so I swapped the front tyres over and this caused it to pull to the right. It was down to a warped/faulty tyre.
So guys instead of selling the car or getting pissed off with it why not try a tyre swap. If thats the cause of it then problem cured for say depending on tyre size and make £60 to £100. Mmmm

Darwin I wish you all the best with your choice my friend.

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My first Ceed hadthree 4 wheel alignments, tyres swapped around, and a full set of new tyres put on-no difference at all. I belive there is an inherent fault with some KIA Ceed's-not all but some.


Just pleased I got mine from a main dealer with a good manager who agreed to swap
 

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I wonder if the front subframe was needing realigned. Do you remember when the first Mondeos came out most pulled to the left. This was supposed to be cured by a subframe alignment.
 
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