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Hi All, Apologies if this has been covered before...

I have a 68 Plate Sportage GT-Line which keeps throwing the above fault. It's been back to the garage and they've so far done a software update (recall) and have mentioned the DPF regen. I've tried the high revs option for 30 minutes and this doesn't seem to resolve it.

The garage are telling me that my driving short distances are the problem and I should do more motorway driving but that's not as simple as they say. I live in a rural area and my closest motorway junction is about 50 minutes drive away. My commute is 18 miles on A roads and my job involves me driving all over the area visiting clients (farms).

The problem seems to happen primarily when I am on a long journey. Today I had been driving for 40 minutes when the light came on and I still had another 20 minutes at least before I got to my appointment.

Anyone have any suggestions please?
 

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Its been mentioned on this forum for a number of years that modern diesels do not like short journeys.
This isn't specific to the Sportage either, I recall similar conversations 10 years ago with my old Chrysler.
 

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yes i have had the same problem and you will soon get the the engine fault warning light come up and dpf will be blocked. it happened to me after less than 100 miles new on my car and at 2000 miles again . both times i have had to have the dpf system changed under warranty . was told the same as you . but like you say its not that easy most the roads around me are restricted to 50 mph due to roadworks and even on on motorways m25 and m1 your be lucky to get up to speed due to accidents or speed limits. this should not be happening. i have never experienced the car doing a regent to my knowledge. .only a couple of times it has smelt hot normally when about to end journey ,which you cant then do another 40 miles to help it regen .it has never shown higher revs or any other signs .due to the 8 speed gearbox revs are normally running very low while driving and im returning about 40mpg .the light in the past has come up also on longer journey . im not sure what the next step is if it does it again apart from replace it again or reject the car not fit for purpose .shame because its a great car apart from this.

what model exactly do you have
 

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Hi All, Apologies if this has been covered before...

I have a 68 Plate Sportage GT-Line which keeps throwing the above fault. It's been back to the garage and they've so far done a software update (recall) and have mentioned the DPF regen. I've tried the high revs option for 30 minutes and this doesn't seem to resolve it.

The garage are telling me that my driving short distances are the problem and I should do more motorway driving but that's not as simple as they say. I live in a rural area and my closest motorway junction is about 50 minutes drive away. My commute is 18 miles on A roads and my job involves me driving all over the area visiting clients (farms).

The problem seems to happen primarily when I am on a long journey. Today I had been driving for 40 minutes when the light came on and I still had another 20 minutes at least before I got to my appointment.

Anyone have any suggestions please?
40 mins driving is not a short journey, One of the reasons i never got a diesel is i do 5 miles to work "10 mins" that's a short journey.
Sounds like there passing the blame IMHO
 

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I drive a lot of very short journeys in my 65 plate Ceed cdi 7 speed dct (26000 miles) warning light has never illuminated, never noticed a regen. this is a great car. definately best one for me in the Kia range, like it much better than latest Ceed.
 

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I read this post last night & have been thinking about it.
In my opinion, a short journey is one where the engine does not reach normal operating temperature consistently.
I think the dealer is talking bo11ox - a 40 minute journey is certainly not short.
Ask him to define short journey.
Both firepete & I drive the 48V Hybrid version. These are marketed for their advanced stop start technology.
Stop Start = Traffic... doesn't it? (which I spend most of my commute time in, hence buying an auto).
You'd think that Stop Start would cause Regen mayhem...... I haven't had any DPF Regen problems.
Yet firepete has had.
 

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i tend to turn it off if i remember .and im surprised how quick it operates after first starting engine .
 

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Please don't be tempted to get your dealer involved with the DPF, they will undoubtedly rip you off.
There are loads of companies will clean out your DPF, many coming to you to do it.
I saw one Facebook post from a local guy at the weekend, a clogged DPF in a BMW.
He gave all sorts of back-pressure readings that showed how his cleaning method does actually work.
It's just soot, at the end of the day.
 

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I bought a Kia Sportage 2019 a month ago, and I faced the same problem,( check exhaust system) please inform, is this signal dangerous ??, and what is the solution
 

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I do not know who is responsible here, and Kia must find the solution to this problem, and be within the warranty of the ca
 

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I’m a little concerned reading this as I’ve just ordered a new 1.6 diesal sportage and wasn’t aware of the issues with DPF on Kia’s.
Regarding any issues being put down to short journeys this is absolute cr#p I’m afraid and you are getting fobbed off if that’s what you are getting told.
I’ve worked as a Volkswagen technician in main dealers for over 18 years and I can
honestly only count a handful of times I’ve ever had to replace a DPF and most of the time that was when a customer had a engine warning light come on and then proceeded to keep driving causing the filter to block.
It does of course do diesal cars good to have a decent length journey but there is no reason what so ever why a DPF should block just because of the odd short journey as they passively/actively regenerate journeys of day 20 minutes or so should be more than sufficient and I would say if your getting issues it’s either a design flaw or fault with the Kia.
 

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Please don't take this personally, but VAG have zero credibility here in the UK so your experiences with VW diesel vehicles which have been hacked to fool emissions testing are hardly relevant. It is also surprising that a technician of 18 years standing cannot spell "diesel" or use a spell checker.


AFAIK DPF issues on persistent low mileage vehicles is not confined to KIA engines - take a read of the Honest John website.
 

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What the **** has cheating emission scandal got to do with daily driving and dpf replacement??? I’m stating what happens on a daily basis in the real world and not someone who just reads stuff online!
Regarding my spelling do you have a issue with a mechanic with dyslexia? If you have an issue with people with disabilities then you are a very sad person and probably want to have a long look at yourself.
Why on earth anyone would feel the need to get personal is beyond me! Just stick to the subject as above
 

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What the **** has cheating emission scandal got to do with daily driving and dpf replacement??? I’m stating what happens on a daily basis in the real world and not someone who just reads stuff online!
Regarding my spelling do you have a issue with a mechanic with dyslexia? If you have an issue with people with disabilities then you are a very sad person and probably want to have a long look at yourself.
Why on earth anyone would feel the need to get personal is beyond me! Just stick to the subject as above

Because the cheating emission scandal has:


1) Destroyed VAG (and others) reputation and credibility, and so the VAG experience with DPFs is not to be accepted without question.


2) It occurs to me that it is at least possible that those cheats in some way actually preserve the DPF so the experiences you report are not transferrable to those manufacturers who do not cheat.


Apologies if you have taken my comment regarding your spelling personally. I was not aware of your disability - I am not an FMR* (I guess that's my disability!). I note that all the other words in your posts seem to be spelled correctly and are grammatically correct so it seems that you only have to put in a little work on that one word to overcome your disability - well done :smile:


There is plenty of evidence regarding low mileage users and DPFs on many motoring fora so your VW experiences would seem to be rare. No one is suggesting that the occasional short journey is death to DPFs - the absence of longer journeys is the problem and even 20 minutes bumbling around in urban environment is insufficient to allow a DPF regen. I am not a fan of the "thrash it" theory either but sustained cruising at moderate speed is needed to get the DPF up to temp.




* ...king Mind Reader
 

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Apology accepted I just felt it was getting a bit personal that’s all maybe just me being over sensitive ?
I agree Vw reputation is indeed in pieces but some of the vehicles I’m talking about are eu6 engines so not effected by emissions scandal etc.
Well fingers crossed my Kia won’t turn up issues regarding regeneration etc.
I do totally agree for short journeys only petrol is the way to go but if going on longer journeys even if just a few times a week I still think in my personal opinion diesal is a good option.
If Kia indeed turn out to have issues then at least I will have a lengthy warranty to turn to.
The other key thing is if a DPF regeneration doesn’t complete to not ignore warning etc and just keep driving normally
 

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69 plate GT Line Petrol, got petrol because of short journeys. Ppf warning light constantly on, will not clear. With dealer. Kia PPF System new to new model, has anybody got or had similar.
 

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Hi All, Apologies if this has been covered before...

I have a 68 Plate Sportage GT-Line which keeps throwing the above fault. It's been back to the garage and they've so far done a software update (recall) and have mentioned the DPF regen. I've tried the high revs option for 30 minutes and this doesn't seem to resolve it.

The garage are telling me that my driving short distances are the problem and I should do more motorway driving but that's not as simple as they say. I live in a rural area and my closest motorway junction is about 50 minutes drive away. My commute is 18 miles on A roads and my job involves me driving all over the area visiting clients (farms).

The problem seems to happen primarily when I am on a long journey. Today I had been driving for 40 minutes when the light came on and I still had another 20 minutes at least before I got to my appointment.

Anyone have any suggestions please?
Hi. What engine size is it. There is a knows few issues with the dpf on the 2.0 crdi. It should be a warranty issue. One way of testing is if you have black soot like residue at the tailpipe the dpf will need replacing.
 

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Hi. What engine size is it. There is a knows few issues with the dpf on the 2.0 crdi. It should be a warranty issue. One way of testing is if you have black soot like residue at the tailpipe the dpf will need replacing.
I have posted the info below several times and it has generally resulted in denials/derision from those who know better but increasingly people buying the wrong car are suffering dpf problems on this and many other forums

Some advice re DPF’s for those owners who do REGULAR SHORT TRIPS. I traded in my Chevrolet Captiva diesel for a Sportage petrol for reliability and DPF issues.
I do regular short runs and constantly encountered interrupted DPF regenerations, my neighbour with an identical car but doing longer daily runs did not. There is no dashboard warning light to tell you a regen has started.
The regen causes additional fuel to be dumped into the exhaust system to burn off the soot in the DPF the regen can take up to 20 mins to complete. If you interrupt a regen when you turn off the engine you may notice a burning smell, very hot engine and running on cooling fan.
If you continually interrupt regens then your DPF light will come on, if you continually ignore the light and do not drive for circa 20 miles at 2000 + rpm to burn off the soot then any or all of the following are likely –
Your DPF will block requiring a specialised clean – very expensive or a replacement DPF – frighteningly expensive.
The unused fuel will be dumped into the sump thus raising the level dangerously high and in extreme cases allowing the engine to run on to destruction on the oil/diesel mixture even after being turned off.
It’s unlikely that the warranty will cover these.
So what to do. Remember the DPF warning light is not telling you that a regen has started, it’s telling you you’ve interrupted so many that if you don’t drive till it goes out you’re on deep s**t
My Captiva was programmed to regen every 500 miles (Sportages are probably similarly programmed) so because of my regular short journeys and consequent interruptions I reset the trip meter at the start of each regen. At 500 miles I would keep an eye on the instant fuel readout which dropped into the teens and continue to drive up to 20 miles until mpg returned to normal. Sometimes very inconvenient but better than the alternative.
 

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Prior to VW carrying out the "cheat fix" on my 5 year old VW Touran I noticed that instead of using a little oil between services the dipstick oil level was actually going up and the DPF was going through a regen after almost every short trip! Despite writing to and complaining to VW, they didn't want to know. I got rid last August and bourght a 1.7 Sportage thinking my DPF nightmares were over!
How can Kia sell a vehicle without a warning that short trips will result in the issues reported here? Effectively my Sportage is not fit for purpose?
 

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Prior to VW carrying out the "cheat fix" on my 5 year old VW Touran I noticed that instead of using a little oil between services the dipstick oil level was actually going up and the DPF was going through a regen after almost every short trip! Despite writing to and complaining to VW, they didn't want to know. I got rid last August and bourght a 1.7 Sportage thinking my DPF nightmares were over!
How can Kia sell a vehicle without a warning that short trips will result in the issues reported here? Effectively my Sportage is not fit for purpose?
This is true for all modern diesels, not just KIA, It is well known that short journeys and low mileage means that a diesel is not for you.
 
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