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I just happened to be shopping online for a set of disks and pads for a car, not fancy hi performance pads, just standard every day pads, and it appears I now have a choice from from one of my favourite manufacturers, ATE.

Ceramic, or standard which is apparantly non-asbestos organic (or NAO)

Anyone with an opinion or experience of Ceramic pads on standard disks?
I fancy them because they are supposedly designed for driver comfort. They are apparantly the least noisy and produce very little messy brake dust.
They are apparantly not so good in extreme cold.

I figure if a manufacturer of standard parts now provides them as an alternative they must be ok for everyday use.
 

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I used ceramic pads on a Toyota Landcruiser Amazon [100 series] and found them to be great. However some people seem to have found them to be noisy. Mine were quiet. I still have an unused set for the back axle.
 

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https://oards.com/ceramic-vs-metallic-brake-pads/Cons of Ceramic Brake Pads
Ceramic brake pads cost more money than metallic brake pads. Since they don’t cause as much friction against the spinning brake discs, the ability to slow down or stop the vehicle will take a little longer with ceramic brake pads.
If you are driving a big vehicle like a truck or SUV, then you shouldn’t use ceramic brake pads for those. The stopping power will be even worse for them.

Non OEM parts could affect your insurance too. Minefield.:eek:
 

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The ATE pads and probably any similar intended as OE replacements are not that much different to organic pads apparently, most users would not notice the difference and they are not 100% ceramic, but a mix of various ingredients.
There is a lot of outdated info about ceramic pads on the WWW, apparantly many electric cars use them which is why they are now available for some non electric cars also.
Back in the early 60s, the seat belt was also considered unsuited for every day driving.
 

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Brembo coated disks and ATE ceramic pads are now fitted. Previously with standard Brembo pads the front brakes produced about 3x as much dust on the wheels as the rear brakes did. With the ceramic pads the brake dust is about even front and rear.

After 50,000 miles the old standard Brembo disks had become < half worn on both surfaces, but a bit uneven on the inside. Standard Brembo pads were 50% worn outside, 80% worn inside. 2050kg car, automatic.

The new Brembo disks originate from China according to the packaging, the coating is a black "hammerite" type paint only on the surfaces circled below, not the whole disk like many of the newer disks today. Appearance wise I think galvanised or silver painted looks better.

As far as braking effect goes, the new ceramic pads are the same as new standard pads, if anything just a shade better.

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