You might be better off posting on the Optima forum.

 

Thanks I've also posted it in the Optima fourm. Though as it was same engine somebody might have had similar problem.

 

My 1.7 Sportage consistantly returns 48MPG average, could you have binding brakes?

 

Can't really compare, whilst they might have the same engine, the car will have different aerodynamic co-efficients, they'll certainly have different weights, and quite possibly different gearing ratios.

However, if it helps, the bulk of my driving was 26 mile each way commute, consisting of half motorway and half urban going, and all motorway coming back.

My 1.7 Sportage consistantly showed between 48 and 52mpg over a 5 year 60,000 mile period, with regular trip resets.

Diesels generally run more efficiently with cold air, so we couldn't attribute the drop to the winter weather.

Edited by: keat99

 

Can't get my 1.7 sportage past 42 mpg however carefully i drive including motorways

 

Hi All, just taken delivery two weeks ago of my 1.7 Axis (56 plate), have already filled up twice and quite disappointed with the economy.
Previous car wasa Mercedes GLC AMG with larger diesel engine and 4x4 and it was averaging high 40's MPG over two years. Usually 48 MPG.

I'm struggling to get above 40 MPG out of my 1.7 diesel ECO Dynamics Sportage. No extra weight, tyres properly inflated and new, no brakes on, never above 60 MPH, gentle accelerating and few hills near me. Even on a motorway cruise I only managed 44 and this came straight back down to 36 then next day.

My old 1.5 megane used to easily achieve 64 MPG, my 1.6 Peugeot 207 got 56 MPG; so I believe I am driving economically. Really expected to be able to get nearly 50 MPG out of this version. It was the main reason to buy this particular model. (Along with 7 year warranty).

Has anyone had any real better economy after getting a re-map?

 

I've just done 150 miles on motorway at 70mph on cruise and got 42.1 mpg
My old 2.0 mondeo returned more running round town and to work
Im dissatisfied with the mpg

 

Diesels generally run more efficiently with cold air, so we couldn't attribute the drop to the winter weather.


Diesels are less efficient in cold weather they take longer to warm up in normal weather and longer in colder weather especially if it doesn't be a pre heater fitted to it so a drop in mpg isn't unusual in any fuel type in winter and cold weather

 

So, who cares? You buy it, you drive it so why even bother to worry about the mpg? It's a car, a tin box, which goes from A to B. Just live with it. MPG is something that I've never , in 64 year of motoring bothered to think about. If I did I'd buy a pair of roller skates instead. If it does over 25mpg I'd not care a toss. But to worry about a few mpg seems so pathetic.

 

In the days of nearly £6 a gallon, how far that gallon of fuel takes me is a prime concern in the car I purchase. Most of that £6 is extra tax, I resent having to fill up !!! Our other car is electric, it is not so much concern for the environment, but cost per mile that helped us make that choice.We all bought the Kia based on certain facts; we aremostly disappointed that the economical version, 1.7 diesel, does not match the economy of other manufacturers vehicles in the same style.
Salesman states "You would expect to get over 50 MPG, in real term driving", actual figure is under 40 MPG.... This is disappointing !

 

Salesman states "You would expect to get over 50 MPG, in real term driving", actual figure is under 40 MPG.... This is disappointing !

You must be careful not to believe the mpg figures that some contributors to to car forums claim but if you believe anything a car salesman tells you, then I'm afraid there may be no hope for you!

Fuel economy comes up time and time again in all car forums and has become the currency of all sorts of braggarts who just need to 'black cat' everyone else, always failing to acknowledge that no two drivers have exactly the same commute at the same time in the same weather conditions.

Technically, there's probably nothing wrong with your car.......it's your house and workplace that cause your problem! What you need to do is buy/rent a property about 200 yards from a motorway slip road and get yourself a job at a motorway service area about 20 miles further along the motorway, selling burgers or whatever. Using your car, without any alterations, on that regular commute should produce a huge improvement in your fuel economy.

I don't charge for this useful consumer advice.

 

Technically, there's probably nothing wrong with your car.......it's your house and workplace that cause your problem!

That is a very interesting observation and one which brings back memories from my commute some years ago.

15 miles each way, a mixture of town, decent A road and dual carriageway, a majority was dual carriageway with the A road being 2nd and town 3rd. We lived at 600ft above sea level, work was at 100ft above sea level (according to OS). Used to take 45 minutes each way.

Trip to work would easily see a figure on the fuel confuser of 60+ mpg. Trip home would rearely see a figure over 45mpg on the same day in similar traffic.

During the 5 years we owned that car (1.6 turbo diesel mini MPV with 110PS) it averaged about 44mpg so when I read about people worrying when they get similar figures from a larger more powerful SUV I do honestly think they are being a little unrealistic.

The only thing you should do with salesman claims and the official MPG figures is ignore them.

 

As a good rule of thumb whatever the lowest figure quoted is usually the combined cycle I find that's closer to the real world mpg I ignore the other two as its rarely possible to match them
Some cars can some can't but with so many over riding factors

 

Not sure what your criteria is for buying a car, but for some of society MPG is a huge part of which car to buy.
You are aware that nearly all of the cost of fuel is tax, diesel is actually very cheap. Anyone that's willing to pay extra taxes is more than welcome to in my book. So THANK YOU.
We all know that the method of obtaining the manufacturers economy figures is flawed, but we expect to maybe get nearly 80% of the figure if driving carefully. I bought the 2 wheel drive, 1.7 diesel with eco dynamics expecting to get at least high 40's as MP "Imperial" Gallon (4.5 litres). It is the only thing I have been disappointed with, great car otherwise.
I just wanted to know if others were getting similar economy, or mine had an engine problem; it seems that even though this engine is quite a modern one, it is just not an economical version compared with similar engines in similar cars. I have spoken with Qashqai owners with the 1.5 diesel engine (Renault), who actually get 60 MPG. I consider myself an economical driver, rather than a fast one. I'm retired, drive for pleasure and rarely in a rush. The less actual tax I pay, the better. PS Our (ordered) next car is fully electric, this will help with fuel costs as we have solar panels and wind generator at home!

 

I kept my last car, a petrol for almost 4 years and did 27,000 miles in at approx 45 mpg, total fuel cost was approx £3600.After discounts and deposit contribution I paid approx £15000, in PX I got £7200 thus depreciation was £7800.
Insurance cost me about £1000 for 4 years.
Servicing was £385 (£11 a month for 35 months)
VED was £90
My Total running costs were approx £12875 thus fuel was approx 28%.

If I had bought the identical car with a more economical diesel engine it would have cost £2000 more and possibly been worth £1000 more in PX. According to Honest John Real MPG I should have averaged approx 53mpg making my fuel bill approx £3000.

Keeping my other costs the same the more economical version would have cost me £13274, £400 more than the less economical version I bought.

There is far more to your overall motoring cost than your mpg figure.

Edited by: Acenta

 

So, who cares?  You buy it, you drive it so why even bother to worry about the mpg?  It's a car, a tin box, which goes from A to B.  Just live with it.  MPG is something that I've never , in 64 year of motoring bothered to think about.  If I did I'd buy a pair of roller skates instead. If it does over 25mpg I'd not care a toss. But to worry about a few mpg seems so pathetic.

I understand what you are saying but I think it is a generational thing. I am of an age that thinks anything over 30 mpg is exceptional and I am happy if I get mid to high 20's.

Times (and expectations) have changed.Edited by: Techno

 

Sorry Techno, I cannot believe for a second that you actually believe your own post, unless you put pure driving experience and enjoyment above the importance of your wallet!

Sadly there is little of that to be experienced these days, other than on a track day with a different style of vehicle.

 

" Sadly there is little of that to be experienced these days, other than on a track day with a different style of vehicle.

"

Not sure that I agree with that comment
Move north we have plenty of roads where high speed motoring/cornering can be enjoyed without the interference to, or of, other traffic.. Try the North Yorks Moors when it's raining.

 

Hi Lancelot, I know the North Yorks roads very well both on my R1 and in the Sportage - especially the Cat & Fiddle run and the " Helmsley GP" circuit to name two. But, I would sooner stay legal and safer and continue with track days. Apologies for hijacking the original topic.

 

Sorry Techno, I cannot believe for a second that you actually believe your own post, unless you put pure driving experience and enjoyment above the importance of your wallet!

Sadly there is little of that to be experienced these days, other than on a track day with a different style of vehicle.

Actions speak louder than words!


You'll notice from my sig that we don't have the 47 mpg Sportage any more. It was swapped for an American SUV that averages 27 mpg.

 

My 2014 Kia sportage 2.0 crdi awd last year travelling from invernes to Aberdeen on the A96it's a 112 miles there and back I got an average of 49mpg to 52mpg and I was going slow that was good enough for me I have a picanto as well which I use for going around in town or short distance and easy parking to I don't really bother about how much you get mpg it's only a car if I worried about how much fuel it used I drive myself mad ˜Š Ewan