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    Posted: 15 Apr 2018 at 9:08pm
I saw this item on BBC News..seems like the Volvo XC90 is the safest vehicle on the market to date

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43752226
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iooi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 2018 at 9:44pm
Well that's sweet if you have 50K + to spend.

Wonder how their average mileage and fatalities in the area they are located in, compare to other area's. As well as how many accidents they are involved in. 
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Its only as safe as the idiot behind the wheel.

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In 2008, Volvo claimed they would make an "uncrashable" car by 2020.
I wonder if they've recalibrated that.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Turnup Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Apr 2018 at 5:08pm
Good points iooi.  Safety is a difficult thing to quantify in a fair way.  OK so no-one has died in an XC90.  Could be lots of people injured though, and could be lots and lots of minor shunts, and could be that those relatively few vehicles happen to be favoured by low risk drivers who drive relatively few miles.  50k vehicles is a small number by comparison to many others.  I wonder how many people are killed in a Rolls Royce.  Statistics are slippery things and it is easy to misinterpret such findings.
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It is bound to be based on the number of boxes ticked - of features assumed to protect occupants in a serious crash - not a statistical analysis of actual crashes. Besides, most cars reach the scrap yard without having killing someone and it is not possible to be safer than that. One has to wonder about the skills of the driver if safety rating is of such importance to them.

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Originally posted by Ace Demon Ace Demon wrote:

It is bound to be based on the number of boxes ticked - of features assumed to protect occupants in a serious crash - not a statistical analysis of actual crashes. Besides, most cars reach the scrap yard without having killing someone and it is not possible to be safer than that. One has to wonder about the skills of the driver if safety rating is of such importance to them.
 
Would be so much better if you were to read the article before commenting on a flawed methodology you have incorrectly assumed was used.
 
The most skilful driver in the world might prefer to be in a car which protects him and his from the other idiot.
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http://uk.businessinsider.com/volvo-suv-in-fatal-uber-crash-arizona-new-safety-questions-2018-3

Seems UBER can buck the trend.

Would be interesting to know just where they mount the sensors. As clearly Kia have a issue in that snow blocks the sensor, just from driving in it.. So I can not think that Volvo given the country of manufacture would suffer this issue.
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Originally posted by Turnup Turnup wrote:

Originally posted by Ace Demon Ace Demon wrote:

It is bound to be based on the number of boxes ticked - of features assumed to protect occupants in a serious crash - not a statistical analysis of actual crashes. Besides, most cars reach the scrap yard without having killing someone and it is not possible to be safer than that. One has to wonder about the skills of the driver if safety rating is of such importance to them.
 
Would be so much better if you were to read the article before commenting on a flawed methodology you have incorrectly assumed was used.
 
The most skilful driver in the world might prefer to be in a car which protects him and his from the other idiot.


I stand by the words. "It is, according to the independent laboratory Thatcham Research, the safest car it has ever tested." Very well,  there are 30 million cars in Britain and 800 occupants killed a year. 50,000 doesn't seem enough to be meaningful.

Most crashes involve a failing by both drivers. "Primary fault" as used by insurance companies to decide who pays is something completely different. Skill includes defensiveness and responsibility; something often lacking in these pantechnicons. Not a few drivers use the size an intentional means of intimidation.

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Agree that the group is on the small side so the statement is a bit tenuous, but it is the entire population of XC90 so there is little else that can be done to refine the figures.  Just to be clear, the report speaks of "cars tested" and not "cars evaluated" so this is more than a box ticking exercise and the statement "killed no drivers or passengers" is not statistical, it is a plain fact.

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