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Topic: Got some led headlamp bulbs coming
Posted By: learoy
Subject: Got some led headlamp bulbs coming
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 12:44pm
Will post some pics when they come

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kia 2.0 gt-line in fusion white



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Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 1:23pm
Thanks for being the Guinea pig Learoy. Will be great to have some first hand info on them. 

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Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 1:32pm
No probs will let you all know my thoughts.got them from the member on this forum who was doing the interior and number plate led upgrade sets.hes even selling them to a kia dealer in his country and they are fitting them to new kias if the customer wants led head lights.

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Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 3:16pm
Chikto has been looking for LED version of the HB3 bulb for ages now.  I think I am on his waiting list and to be honest I had given up.  Really interested in how this works out Learoy - do post when you have them fitted.

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Posted By: Sportidge
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 3:30pm
If they're as good as his orange Indicator LEDs, then they'll be excellent.

Awaits pics...... Big smile


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2016 Sportage 1.6T DCT GT-Line, Infra Red


Posted By: Signman
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 4:41pm
This quote from my internet enquiries about the legality of upgrading from halogen to xenon or LED

This guide pulls together all the information I could find online from sources such as the official MOT test handbook published by VOSA, the European regulations which are used to make up UK law, and information from the Department for Transport.

The bottom line, as far as I can see, is this:

You can fit an aftermarket HID kit to a UK vehicle, and as long as the beam pattern is correct, the light is predominantly white or yellow-white, there is no glare for other road users, and the light passes all the standard MOT test checks such as being secure and pointing in the right direction, then you should be able to pass an MOT and not break the law.

 

BUT, this doesn't necessarily mean you will be road legal as you will be driving a car which has parts which have been modified and these parts won't have been subjected to the approval processes which manufacturers have to go through.

 

So, even if you pass an MOT and don't attract attention from the police, you may still find yourself in trouble if you crash, or cause somebody else to crash, and it is discovered that you've made modifications to your vehicle.

 

And, of course, you may invalidate your insurance if you perform a modification which you haven't told them about.

So, not to put too fine a point on it, you're on your own, and your decisions are your own.

I would add that you should also have the headlamp wash facility on upgrades from halogen headlamps also, so do please beware!!!



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2016 Sportage '4' 1.7crdi Gun Metal - From 13.4.16 Lovin' it. 40k miles covered ave 46mpg
2014 Sportage Black Edition 1.7crdi 25.7.14-13.4.16. 37k+ enjoyable miles covered, averaging 48mpg.


Posted By: Signman
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 5:01pm
Further to may last post

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120606172805/http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/dft-information-sheets/aftermarket-hid-headlamps.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120606172805/http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/dft-information-sheets/aftermarket-hid-headlamps.pdf

It seems in addition to the wash facility you also need the self levelling facility.




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2016 Sportage '4' 1.7crdi Gun Metal - From 13.4.16 Lovin' it. 40k miles covered ave 46mpg
2014 Sportage Black Edition 1.7crdi 25.7.14-13.4.16. 37k+ enjoyable miles covered, averaging 48mpg.


Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 5:22pm
Signman,
 
This whole area is very muddy and it seems that you and I have followed similar paths.  I spent a deal of time trying to understand what legislation prevails and it seems to be spread over a number of sources over a number of years, which means that there is no one place to look for answers.  I wrote to DfT as a motorist wishing to understand the law on this very matter so that I could comply with it and got a very woolly and evasive response which suggests that the law is unclear, particularly on LEDs. 
 
You cite referenced to HID lamps, but these are not the same as LEDs (DfT also gave me advice as an aside on HIDs despite my asking specifically about LEDs).  I suspect that the EU has not yet come up with standards for LEDs (some manufacturers are fitting them but under individual model specific licences and not in compliance to a general standard) 
 
You are partially correct regarding headlamp washers, which are required for HIDs (as are self levelling headlamps) in Construction and Use regs, but only seem to be generally required where the lamp exceeds a certain brightness (I forget the number) and an absolute upper limit of 3000 lumens per lamp.  For reference the wimpy Sylvanias fitted as standard are about 800 lumens per lamp.
 
Apart from beam pattern and colour the other parts of construction and use are not tested at MoT, (e.g. self levelling systems and headlamp washers where fitted must work correctly) so as you correctly state it is possible to pass the MoT and still have a vehicle which does not meet C&U.  
 
The only clear bit I could find was that bulbs which carry the appropriate E mark are certainly compliant (except for the cheap Chinese forgeries of course), but it is not clear if other bulbs are actually prohibited.  Much fun could be had in court along the lines "I understand that these bulbs do not carry the E mark, but this does not mean that they do not comply in all other respects and it is for you to prove that they don't" 
 
What started all this off is two things I did not like about the standard Sporty halogens.
 
1)  They appear much dimmer than the headlights on my old Avensis or my wife's current Yaris.  Both of these cars have 60/60W or 60/80W lamps for main and dip, and both cars put them BOTH on for full beam.  The Sporty has only a single 60W bulb serving both beams (but actually has to spread the light out over the full high and dip range so appears less bright)
 
2) The Sylvanias appear vey yellow by comparison to the DRLs and this just looks wrong.
 
Having failed to find a decent LED (they all seem to be insanely bright or really dim ?) I settled for some (fully compliant) halogens which are both brighter and are tinted to appear the same colour as the DRLs - several threads on here mention a variety of manufacturers. 
 
I am not looking for laser beams that will burn the retinas of all other road users and peel the paint off their cars, I am looking for slightly brighter and whiter headlamps than those fitted as standard, and let's not forget the energy savings and much better reliability of LEDs. 


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Posted By: Signman
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 5:28pm
Thanks Turnup - a nice balanced response.

I think you did the right thing with the brighter halogens so as to avoid the quagmire there seems to be with upgrading to xenon or led.......and we all know who will muddy the water in the event of an insurance claim Wink


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2016 Sportage '4' 1.7crdi Gun Metal - From 13.4.16 Lovin' it. 40k miles covered ave 46mpg
2014 Sportage Black Edition 1.7crdi 25.7.14-13.4.16. 37k+ enjoyable miles covered, averaging 48mpg.


Posted By: Sheets
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 5:32pm
Originally posted by Signman Signman wrote:

Further to may last post

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120606172805/http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/dft-information-sheets/aftermarket-hid-headlamps.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120606172805/http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/dft-information-sheets/aftermarket-hid-headlamps.pdf

It seems in addition to the wash facility you also need the self levelling facility.





HID and LED are totally different. That article is 7+ years old.
I'd happily fit LED bulbs.


Posted By: Signman
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 6:02pm
Try this Sheets from 7th Feb this year

https://www.motoringassist.com/motoring-advice/news/fit-led-lighting-car-legally/" rel="nofollow - https://www.motoringassist.com/motoring-advice/news/fit-led-lighting-car-legally/

I still have grave doubts and it's the insurers who will use this to their advantage unless you've noted the modification to your insurer and got the endorsement on your policy?


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2016 Sportage '4' 1.7crdi Gun Metal - From 13.4.16 Lovin' it. 40k miles covered ave 46mpg
2014 Sportage Black Edition 1.7crdi 25.7.14-13.4.16. 37k+ enjoyable miles covered, averaging 48mpg.


Posted By: SportyGTLine
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 1:24pm
I upgraded my dipped/main beam lights just after getting my Sporty - a vast difference and the colour matches the DRL's and LED fogs much better. 

After some research, i went for 5k HID's instead of LED's though. 

Interested to see what your LED's are like and their light output! 


Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 1:09pm


Before fitting do look and feel very well made substantial bit of kit

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kia 2.0 gt-line in fusion white


Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 1:10pm
8 philips leds per bulb

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Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 4:52pm
Looking good so far.  Got any specs (power per bulb or lumens per bulb)?

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Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 5:00pm
4000 lum per bulb I think

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kia 2.0 gt-line in fusion white


Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 5:05pm
If 2000 per bulb (4000 per pair) then OK.  If 4000 per bulb then seriously over the legal limit.......
 
Very interested to see the effect in the dark.......


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Sportage 1.6T DCT GT-line


Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 5:27pm
Don't think it says on the bulb the lumens so ok.

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Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 8:31pm
No bulbs have the lumen rating written on them!

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Sportage 1.6T DCT GT-line


Posted By: WhiteSportage
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 9:29pm
I am also very interested in replacing my headlight bulbs. they are tooo yellow at the moment. I want a whiter light to match the Daytime running lights and fogs. Kia dealer told me they were standard H7 bulbs! I bought some from halfords and they didnt fit! lol


Posted By: Bassa66
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2017 at 7:22am
HB3   GOOGLE HB3 BULBS LOADS OF QUALITY SUPPLIERS 


Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2017 at 9:43pm


Quick pic with 1 bulb fitted against my philips white bulb.patern looks the same

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kia 2.0 gt-line in fusion white


Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2017 at 9:54pm
More picture to follow when I get time.more of a crisp pattern line on the led bulbs

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Posted By: Cumbria Kiaman
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2017 at 9:57pm
Looking good. I'm thinking of changing to led headlight bulbs when I pick up my Sorento in September. So following this post with great interest.

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2008 Sportage 2.0 CRDI XE
2012 Sportage 2.0 CRDI KX-2
2017 Sorento KX2


Posted By: Cumbria Kiaman
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2017 at 10:04pm
Which supplier did you get these from, I've been looking at a supplier in Ipswich, £99+vat per pair of bulbs.



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2005 Cerato 1.5 CRDI GS
2008 Sportage 2.0 CRDI XE
2012 Sportage 2.0 CRDI KX-2
2017 Sorento KX2


Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2017 at 7:46am
got them from a x member from this forum Chitko. I do have him on my what's app, i know he sells interior led on eBay so you could contact him that way. He also does the led indicators ,reverse, number plate and fogs which quite a few members have. My sportage is now fully led the way it should of left the factory.Wink

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Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2017 at 1:54pm
Still looking good.  I look forward to some comparative pix (if possible) on full and dip.
How much were they? 

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Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2017 at 2:05pm
£65 Delivered but that may of been a special price for me.
Ive asked Chitko for the actual lumens as I think he's got something that measures this.Wink


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kia 2.0 gt-line in fusion white


Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2017 at 3:47pm
Deffo interested at that price.

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Sportage 1.6T DCT GT-line


Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2017 at 9:33pm


Some main and hi beam pics.nice and white.drove for 20 mins nobody flashed me dust be ok

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kia 2.0 gt-line in fusion white


Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2017 at 9:35pm
Great white match with the fog and side lights

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kia 2.0 gt-line in fusion white


Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2017 at 4:03pm
Thanks for doing the testing Learoy. Going to order a set.

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Sportage ISG 2 Dark Gunmetal Grey (Delivered 19/9/16)Still lovin' the way people ogle at my car


Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2017 at 4:10pm
nice one merlin.
can you get hold of him


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Posted By: WhiteSportage
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2017 at 6:43pm
I've just bought these for my main/dipped beam from euro car parts -

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/car-parts/car-electrics-and-car-lighting/lighting1/car-bulb/?48177029C&&cc5_847" rel="nofollow - http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/car-parts/car-electrics-and-car-lighting/lighting1/car-bulb/?48177029C&&cc5_847

Why don't you just get these? I think they will look good?


Posted By: WhiteSportage
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2017 at 6:45pm
Originally posted by learoy learoy wrote:

nice one merlin.
can you get hold of him


What watts are they? Will they burn anything in the headlamp? Do they have a built in fan/ motor?

I was told by kia any modification to bulbs and my headlights won't be covered under the warranty and excessive heat will burn? Are they more than 60w


Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2017 at 7:56pm
Originally posted by WhiteSportage WhiteSportage wrote:

I've just bought these for my main/dipped beam from euro car parts -

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/car-parts/car-electrics-and-car-lighting/lighting1/car-bulb/?48177029C&&cc5_847" rel="nofollow - http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/car-parts/car-electrics-and-car-lighting/lighting1/car-bulb/?48177029C&&cc5_847

Why don't you just get these? I think they will look good?
 
I have fitted these and they are a good colour match for the DRLs and the beam pattern is the same as standard.  They are a tiny bit brighter than the standard halogens but I still find it insufficient.


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Sportage 1.6T DCT GT-line


Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2017 at 8:04pm
Originally posted by WhiteSportage WhiteSportage wrote:

Originally posted by learoy learoy wrote:

nice one merlin.
can you get hold of him


What watts are they? Will they burn anything in the headlamp? Do they have a built in fan/ motor?

I was told by kia any modification to bulbs and my headlights won't be covered under the warranty and excessive heat will burn? Are they more than 60w
From the pictures Learoy has posted you can clearly see that they have an integral fan.  The principal feature of LED lighting is that for the same brightness they consume about 1/10th of the power.  60W of LED lighting per bulb would be peeling paint off other cars.  If they were more than 60W then they would also be overloading the fuse so I think it is safe to assume that they are less than 60W per bulb.  Chikto (the supplier) has a good rep on here for carefully sourcing LED replacements which are reliable and safe.

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Sportage 1.6T DCT GT-line


Posted By: Bassa66
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 9:32am
Those going for the LED keep us informed as the write up on replacing standard headlights and indicators refer to the effect it may have on the system, I hope it is proved wrong as the led lights do look a tad brighter, I have the osram cool blues and feel that they do lift the integration with the sidelights a degree better so quite happy to wait and see what results long term are with led`s. I have also changed the indicators at the front to the chrome osrams finishes of the front removing the fried egg look. 







Infra Red GT Line Gdi 1.6t. AWD.


Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 12:10pm
Originally posted by learoy learoy wrote:

nice one merlin.
can you get hold of him
I still have his details somewhere, I can always search my eBay history as I got the LED's of him for all the other incandescent bulb replacements.


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Sportage ISG 2 Dark Gunmetal Grey (Delivered 19/9/16)Still lovin' the way people ogle at my car


Posted By: WhiteSportage
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 2:13pm
All sounds good. Yes I see the pics of the lights now. And well done for uploading the pics of your lights Learoy - very helpful. Thankyou to everyone for their posts. This forum is great. Have a great day and enjoy your sportages


Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 6:36pm
Originally posted by Bassa66 Bassa66 wrote:

Those going for the LED keep us informed as the write up on replacing standard headlights and indicators refer to the effect it may have on the system, I hope it is proved wrong as the led lights do look a tad brighter, I have the osram cool blues and feel that they do lift the integration with the sidelights a degree better so quite happy to wait and see what results long term are with led`s. I have also changed the indicators at the front to the chrome osrams finishes of the front removing the fried egg look. 







Infra Red GT Line Gdi 1.6t. AWD.
 
Bassa, What "effect" are you referring to?


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Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 7:12pm
Had an email exchange with 'Chikto' today. Lightened myself of £63 +£3 for shipping. LED headlight bulbs on the way.

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Sportage ISG 2 Dark Gunmetal Grey (Delivered 19/9/16)Still lovin' the way people ogle at my car


Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 7:15pm
Nice one mate

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kia 2.0 gt-line in fusion white


Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 7:16pm
Originally posted by MerlinL14 MerlinL14 wrote:

Had an email exchange with 'Chikto' today. Lightened myself of £63 +£3 for shipping. LED headlight bulbs on the way.
 
Merlin,  Please can you post some pix when you get them fitted?


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Sportage 1.6T DCT GT-line


Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 7:21pm
Certainly will.

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Sportage ISG 2 Dark Gunmetal Grey (Delivered 19/9/16)Still lovin' the way people ogle at my car


Posted By: Sportidge
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 7:38pm
Originally posted by learoy learoy wrote:



Before fitting do look and feel very well made substantial bit of kit

Learoy,

Silly question; When fitted, I assume you can't put the dust caps back on the rear of the lights without modification?

Do you leave them off, or cut a hole in them to get the wire through?


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2016 Sportage 1.6T DCT GT-Line, Infra Red


Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 8:08pm
No I just dropped everything inside the lamp and refitted cap


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Posted By: markhig2
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 8:45pm
Originally posted by Turnup Turnup wrote:

Originally posted by WhiteSportage WhiteSportage wrote:

Originally posted by learoy learoy wrote:

nice one merlin.
can you get hold of him


What watts are they? Will they burn anything in the headlamp? Do they have a built in fan/ motor?

I was told by kia any modification to bulbs and my headlights won't be covered under the warranty and excessive heat will burn? Are they more than 60w

From the pictures Learoy has posted you can clearly see that they have an integral fan.  The principal feature of LED lighting is that for the same brightness they consume about 1/10th of the power.  60W of LED lighting per bulb would be peeling paint off other cars.  If they were more than 60W then they would also be overloading the fuse so I think it is safe to assume that they are less than 60W per bulb.  Chikto (the supplier) has a good rep on here for carefully sourcing LED replacements which are reliable and safe.


Looks more like a heatsink to me. Leroy, is it a fan that's attached?

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Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 9:57pm
From my discussion with Chikto, these are manufactured by Philips so they are not cheap Asian knockoffs. I have every confidence in the product and the seller as he has been proved to be reputable and not just sell crap for the most profit.

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Sportage ISG 2 Dark Gunmetal Grey (Delivered 19/9/16)Still lovin' the way people ogle at my car


Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2017 at 7:39am
No heat sink

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Posted By: Pongee
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2017 at 11:00am
Thanks to this this thread and Learoy, I've just put in an order with Chikto for a set to be delivered down under. Will post pics when installed.


Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2017 at 12:05pm
Great one

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Posted By: asifiqbal892
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2017 at 9:48pm
Hi i have been looking for the led lights for my gt line can anyone help with suppliers info and how to get in contact.
thanks in advance


Posted By: Uvox2
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 6:39pm
To remind members Chikto is a banned member on the Kiaownersclub.co.uk due to violation of our rules on numerous occasions so links to his site is not permitted.

If you want to exchange his contact details, please use the Private message funtion.

Thanks,

Paul


Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2017 at 12:46pm
Private message sent

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Posted By: WhiteSportage
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 9:39pm
Won't these be the same? They are only 40w output per bulb so no need for a fan and no risk of burnouts... and 4000lm each... and they are LED...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-Pair-9005-HB3-H10-200W-6000K-20000LM-LED-Headlights-Kit-Bulbs-Beam-Lamp-Power-/201990492558?hash=item2f0792518e:g:OKUAAOSwDtpZbc4W

or these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NIGHTEYE-8000LM-9005-HB3-LED-Headlight-Kit-Light-Bulbs-6500K-White-Plug-Play-UK-/272659927939?hash=item3f7bcc5383:g:CyQAAOSwnF9Y6IpA" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NIGHTEYE-8000LM-9005-HB3-LED-Headlight-Kit-Light-Bulbs-6500K-White-Plug-Play-UK-/272659927939?hash=item3f7bcc5383:g:CyQAAOSwnF9Y6IpA


Posted By: AtKo
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 7:02am
Originally posted by learoy learoy wrote:



Before fitting do look and feel very well made substantial bit of kit

This LEDs looks nice but doen'st fullfill legal requirement and electronic driver itself is not environmental friendly. I has a lot of EMC (electromagnetic compatibility) disturbances, it has huge missions which affect to other electronic components in your car. I'm electronic engineer in automotive lighting and I tested this our laboratory and it is disaster :) 
But as I said it looks nice on the road from driver view :)


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Posted By: WhiteSportage
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 12:38pm
Atko - Thanks for that information
Learoy -  any problems with your lights? any error messages?
Pongee -  Looking forward to seeing your LEDs in action

I have got these in my Sportage at the moment and they are whiter than the Osram bulbs... and i think they are safe and a simple like for like replacement to originals...

Atko - what do you think of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-HB3-9005-Ultra-Power-Bright-5000k-Xenon-Gas-White-Car-Headlight-Headlamp-Bulbs/230974244276?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-HB3-9005-Ultra-Power-Bright-5000k-Xenon-Gas-White-Car-Headlight-Headlamp-Bulbs/230974244276?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649


Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 2:01pm
i have had no problems at all had them running for 2 hours the other day with no problems
cheersWink


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Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 3:13pm
Originally posted by WhiteSportage WhiteSportage wrote:

Won't these be the same? They are only 40w output per bulb so no need for a fan and no risk of burnouts... and 4000lm each... and they are LED...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-Pair-9005-HB3-H10-200W-6000K-20000LM-LED-Headlights-Kit-Bulbs-Beam-Lamp-Power-/201990492558?hash=item2f0792518e:g:OKUAAOSwDtpZbc4W

or these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NIGHTEYE-8000LM-9005-HB3-LED-Headlight-Kit-Light-Bulbs-6500K-White-Plug-Play-UK-/272659927939?hash=item3f7bcc5383:g:CyQAAOSwnF9Y6IpA" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NIGHTEYE-8000LM-9005-HB3-LED-Headlight-Kit-Light-Bulbs-6500K-White-Plug-Play-UK-/272659927939?hash=item3f7bcc5383:g:CyQAAOSwnF9Y6IpA
 
I have spent quite a bit of time looking at various LED headlamps and the legal situation.
 
The first link you post claims 20,000 lumen and 200 W - the legal limit before headlamp washers become required is 2000 lumen per bulb.  The specs mention that there is a fan, and at 100W per bulb (if you can believe it) you would certainly need one.  100W per bulb is also overloading the headlamp fuse.
 
The second reference is somewhat less outrageously illegal (if you believe the specs, which I am anyway sceptical about) but looking at the led placement, in my opinion are unlikely to give a good beam pattern.


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Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 3:16pm
Originally posted by WhiteSportage WhiteSportage wrote:

Atko - Thanks for that information
Learoy -  any problems with your lights? any error messages?
Pongee -  Looking forward to seeing your LEDs in action

I have got these in my Sportage at the moment and they are whiter than the Osram bulbs... and i think they are safe and a simple like for like replacement to originals...

Atko - what do you think of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-HB3-9005-Ultra-Power-Bright-5000k-Xenon-Gas-White-Car-Headlight-Headlamp-Bulbs/230974244276?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-HB3-9005-Ultra-Power-Bright-5000k-Xenon-Gas-White-Car-Headlight-Headlamp-Bulbs/230974244276?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
 
I have these fitted in mine at the moment.  Good colour match and good beam pattern.  Still a bit wimpy for brightness but subjectively an improvement over the standard Sylvanias.  Cheap as chips too.


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Posted By: markhig2
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 3:24pm
Originally posted by Turnup Turnup wrote:

Originally posted by WhiteSportage WhiteSportage wrote:

Atko - Thanks for that information
Learoy -  any problems with your lights? any error messages?
Pongee -  Looking forward to seeing your LEDs in action

I have got these in my Sportage at the moment and they are whiter than the Osram bulbs... and i think they are safe and a simple like for like replacement to originals...

Atko - what do you think of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-HB3-9005-Ultra-Power-Bright-5000k-Xenon-Gas-White-Car-Headlight-Headlamp-Bulbs/230974244276?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-HB3-9005-Ultra-Power-Bright-5000k-Xenon-Gas-White-Car-Headlight-Headlamp-Bulbs/230974244276?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

 
I have these fitted in mine at the moment.  Good colour match and good beam pattern.  Still a bit wimpy for brightness but subjectively an improvement over the standard Sylvanias.  Cheap as chips too.


I have them too, they do an OK job!

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Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 5:27pm
Still interested in the LEDs that Learoy has.  I know that they are of dubious legality, but only marginally and I strongly doubt that DPP would go to the trouble to prove non-compliance since this take a lot of specialised gear and time to perform.  I actually went to the trouble of writing to DfT on the matter and got a very waffly reply which suggests that the non-conformity (it there is one) is a complex technical matter.  Their closing sentence was something along the lines "You should fit lamps bearing the appropriate "E" mark as this assures compliance."   Note "should" and not "must" which have different legal meanings ("should" is advisory, "must" is mandatory), and also observe that the absence of assured compliance does not mean non-compliance.  

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Posted By: AtKo
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 7:34am
@Turnup: I quickly checked attached link at is stated that this are bulbs filled with Xenon gas. To light up Xenon lamp you need balast with high voltage, if you don't have it or if those bulbs don't need it, then it's not Xenon.

All new cars have proper BCM board computer module which measures input current (from bulbs,leds to BCM) and has some diagnostic thresholds. In case that LED fails no current is consumed or some low which falls below threshold value and turn off output channel and inform driver about failure.
Original lamp is designed in way to fit BCM requirements to consume enough current, so if you put some aftermarket LED with driver and replace current LED or let's say bulby you won't have proper diagnostic (bulbs consume a lot more current of LEDs). And if something fail in shortcut failure and without proper diagnostic control BCM channel won't turn output channel off and this follow in some fire...bum! But sure this is worst worst case which can happen.

Regarding legal requirements everything depends on optical system, if optical system is badly designed you can have 20.000lumens from LEDs (which sure this kind of LED doesn't exist, only if you put 40pcs with ~8W each and have whole car as heatsink to cool this down) you won't be legal. 
Current trend is around 1.000 lumens per highbeam, low beam, direction indicator and DRL.
Evertything depends on optical system, if it is lightguide or reflector etc.
Just think about, bulb glow in 360degree directions, LED only 120degree. You can't reach same light pattern with proper values on the road as bulbs.

Sure it everything looks great, you see enough light on road and police won't bother you. Just check that you don't blind opposite / oncoming drivers :)

Sorry for too much theory :P


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Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 8:44pm
AtKo
 
These bulbs are halogen filament lamps but they run at a slightly higher temperature - this gives more lumens per watt and a higher colour temperature.  The reference to Xenon is not a reference to HID bulbs which use ionised Xenon to create the light.  The Xenon in these bulbs surrounds the filament (at a low pressure) and provides slightly less heat loss from the filament - helping it to run brighter. 
 
Your comments regarding current consumption of LEDS are correct but many aftermarket LED bulbs also incorporate a ballast resistor which draws additional current, enough to satisfy the system that the bulb is working.
 
Your calculation regarding 40 x 8W (=320W) is not consistent with the latest LED technology.  It would take approximately 200W of latest technology LEDs to deliver 20000 lumens, that's 100W per bulb,  This is entirely simple to dissipate - my old car had (as standard from factory) one 60W and one 80 W halogen in each lamp and on main beam BOTH were on.  Nothing melted.  I have absolutely no interest in 20,000 lumens - as far as I have been able to establish, for the UK (and probably all EU) there is a limit of 2,000 lumens per lamp before it is required to fit washers and self levelling, and an absolute upper limit of 3000 lumens per lamp.
 
Yes I am aware that many aftermarket LED bulbs offer a poor pattern, but it is entirely possible to design a layout of LED chips which closely resembles the emission pattern of a filament, sufficient at least to provide an acceptable beam pattern.  I think that maybe Chikto has found one such device.  I have looked at the pix provided by Learoy and they seem pretty good. One example alone is not enough to convince me so I am waiting for the other two members on here to get theirs fitted and take some more pix.
 
The issue with the Sportage headlamps is that they use a SINGLE 55W halogen to provide both High and Low beam and I would estimate that they deliver about 800 - 900 lumen.  Previous cars I have owned have separate bulbs for High and Low beam and BOTH are on for High beam.  The other issue is that by comparison to the LED DRLs, the light is yellow looking and it does not look good to have them side by side.


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Posted By: AtKo
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2017 at 7:30am
I commented that bulbs are filled with Xenon gas as is written in link which you attached.

I'm electronic engineer in automotive lighting (designing electronic for VW, Audi, JLR, Porsche...) and this is not quite true. Sure with "resistor" you just increase current to go over diagnostic threshold, but won't always 100% work on all platforms in case of any LED failure. Some OEMs has so high requirements that simply electronic can not be universal.

Regarding watts it is correct, if you drive latest good LED from XX supplier  with max current to achieve so lumens you will have around 8W thermal power dissipation (more electrical power!). And if you have 40LEDs...it's just multiplied. For example we designed for XX car electronic with 8 LEDs each has around 0,6W and big heatsink to cool this down and not to exceed limits (125°C on PCB) at high ambient temperature and considering heat from engine. In my long years working with this I have just this year project where a lot of LEDs (less than 40) were used on BIG PCB but with active cooling etc.
Also we can not compare power and heat on buls vs LEDs. Electronic component will reduce lifetime or even destroyed, desoldered if temperature will be above 125°C (or above junction temp. 150°C)

We also performed for fun optical measurement under "offical homologation" requirements, comparing H4 bulb and "H4 LED", it was dissaster :) I will try to find a report.

But to be honest I also have some "xenon" look H7 halogen bulbs and some LED in my old "tuning" car. But that is due to look and not functionality. In rainy day I better stay at home hehe

Yes I also don't like cold white and warm white ("yellowish") light source near each other. It looks ugly! :)

Please don't use this ase any arguing, I just share my daily experience and we are just discussing. Some people on forums are quick to get angry :)


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Posted By: Cumbria Kiaman
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2017 at 7:44am
Has anybody seen these, not cheap but apparently fully "E" marked and fully legal inthe UK and Europe.     http://www.kudauk.ltd.uk/shop/led-lights-and-spotlights/led-headlight-conversion-kits" rel="nofollow - http://www.kudauk.ltd.uk/shop/led-lights-and-spotlights/led-headlight-conversion-kits . I am think of ordering some for my 2017 KX2, any thoughts?



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Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2017 at 11:45am
Originally posted by AtKo AtKo wrote:

I commented that bulbs are filled with Xenon gas as is written in link which you attached.

I'm electronic engineer in automotive lighting (designing electronic for VW, Audi, JLR, Porsche...) and this is not quite true. Sure with "resistor" you just increase current to go over diagnostic threshold, but won't always 100% work on all platforms in case of any LED failure. Some OEMs has so high requirements that simply electronic can not be universal.

Regarding watts it is correct, if you drive latest good LED from XX supplier  with max current to achieve so lumens you will have around 8W thermal power dissipation (more electrical power!). And if you have 40LEDs...it's just multiplied. For example we designed for XX car electronic with 8 LEDs each has around 0,6W and big heatsink to cool this down and not to exceed limits (125°C on PCB) at high ambient temperature and considering heat from engine. In my long years working with this I have just this year project where a lot of LEDs (less than 40) were used on BIG PCB but with active cooling etc.
Also we can not compare power and heat on buls vs LEDs. Electronic component will reduce lifetime or even destroyed, desoldered if temperature will be above 125°C (or above junction temp. 150°C)

We also performed for fun optical measurement under "offical homologation" requirements, comparing H4 bulb and "H4 LED", it was dissaster :) I will try to find a report.

But to be honest I also have some "xenon" look H7 halogen bulbs and some LED in my old "tuning" car. But that is due to look and not functionality. In rainy day I better stay at home hehe

Yes I also don't like cold white and warm white ("yellowish") light source near each other. It looks ugly! :)

Please don't use this ase any arguing, I just share my daily experience and we are just discussing. Some people on forums are quick to get angry :)
 
Not arguing and not getting angry - interesting exchange of views.  My writing style can be a bit blunt at times and this can be interpreted as angry.  You would be sure to know if I were angry Smile
 
Agree that halogen filament bulbs will tolerate a much higher temperature than LEDs.  This is why many LED assemblies have fan cooling, even for lower power dissipation than the equivalent brightness halogen.
 
Correct operation of BCM:  To be blunt, I do no need a light on my dash to inform me that a headlamp bulb has failed (other lamps maybe but headlamps are pretty obvious) so a simple ballast to satisfy the current threshold is fine for me.  As for fault protection, even BCMs can go wrong, this is why there is a fuse in the supply and the wiring must be rated to handle the current needed to disrupt the fuse, so not very excited about that.
 
Homologation testing will only give results for the particular LED items tested and cannot be generalised to embrace all LEDs.  The report would be interesting but not directly helpful as my Sporty uses HB3 lamps not H4.  I am sure there are better and worse ones out there (and a lot of Chinese rubbish with ridiculous claims for performance), but this area of technology seems to be evolving very quickly so the door is not closed.


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Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2017 at 12:24pm
Originally posted by Cumbria Kiaman Cumbria Kiaman wrote:

Has anybody seen these, not cheap but apparently fully "E" marked and fully legal inthe UK and Europe.     http://www.kudauk.ltd.uk/shop/led-lights-and-spotlights/led-headlight-conversion-kits" rel="nofollow - http://www.kudauk.ltd.uk/shop/led-lights-and-spotlights/led-headlight-conversion-kits . I am think of ordering some for my 2017 KX2, any thoughts?

 
Their claims regarding power consumption and brightness are reasonable so they pass that test.  Much of the Chinese stuff has technical specifications which simply do not make sense - they just make it up.
 
WRT E marking - difficult to tell from the ad but be advised that the presence of an E mark does not mean they are compliant when fitted to your car.  Several points here, not specifically addressed at this product, more general comments based upon my own research:
 
1)  The Chinese will happily stamp whatever marks they want without any testing.
 
2) The marking has to be the appropriate marking for the headlamp type.  I think that for projector style lamps as in the Sporty it is E1.  I have seen products on offer with E markings inappropriate for the type of connector - and the type of connector is specific to a particular bulb and reflector geometry.
 
3) I have also seen products where the driver module (or ballast or whatever they call it) has an E marking but the bulb itself does not.  This means that the driver may be fully approved but the bulb itself is not.
 
That said, the design looks to be of a type which potentially would give a reasonable beam pattern, the claimed power and lumen ratings are reasonable and would not require self-levelling and headlamp washers.  The colour temperature is a little high (I think there is an absolute limit of 5700K - I might be wrong on this) but this is not something that can be tested outside of a laboratory - Plod and your MoT station  do not have calibrated eyes.
 
Without any feedback from a credible user it is a leap in the dark.


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Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2017 at 6:23pm
My LED bulbs still haven't turned up so I can't do any comparisons until they do. Posted 7-9-17 apparently.

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Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 1:17pm
Bulbs turned up in morning mail. Fitted in 10 minutes. The ballast is 12/24v and it and the plug and socket fitted snugly inside the lamp assembly and the dust cover goes back on without issue. I taped a piece of bubble wrap on the ballast and plug do it doesn't get to rattle inside the lamp assy, loads of room to keep it away from the heat sink on the bulb. There is an allan key in the package to adjust the locating ring orientation if required. The light is so much whiter than stock but until it gets dark I have no idea just or if they emit better lighting ahead. The bulbs have a heat sink not a fan, but it is substantial and made of aluminium so will dissipate heat well.

Don't know what happend there! Only one photo per post?
 


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Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 1:21pm
OK, sussed it out, it was me!


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Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 1:52pm
Merlin - Looking good so far.  I would be wary of putting bubble wrap in there - the whole area will get hot (the ballast itself will also get hot) - danger of overheating the ballast and/or melting the bubble wrap.  If it does rattle then you need to find something that will not melt or catch fire, but I would expect that you can arrange the parts and cables so that they don't rattle.
 
Very interested in the High and dip beam patterns compared to the standard bulbs.


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Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 3:08pm
I think I need to wait until dark and shine them against a wall to see what the pattern is like. I will monitor the bubble wrap situation, thanks for the heads up. I think Learoy just put his in the light assy without any 'anti rattle' precautions.

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Posted By: Cumbria Kiaman
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 3:16pm
Are there any problems with the canbus or light warnings at all?


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2012 Sportage 2.0 CRDI KX-2
2017 Sorento KX2


Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 3:18pm
No, no warning lights on the dash and all other lighting is working without issue with headlights turned on or off. Lights on indicators function as well without issue.

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Posted By: WhiteSportage
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 6:18pm
hello everyone! GREAT forum topic, I'm keen to see pics too Merlin. They sound safe with no errors - thanks for the feedback.

BTW - Turnup - heres something you could try seeing as we have the same bulbs and same vehicle... (i find it pretty good)...Currently i have my front fogs permanently on whenever my lights come on automatically...and it really lights up the road almost like LED's... and car looks cool whilst driving...and i get to use the fogs more rather than just using them 3 times a year for actual fog ;) Wink


Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 6:55pm
No rattles but maybe to far forward to notice.the blasts do get warm but not as much as the heatsink.if they get to hot they are fitted with a thermal trip

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Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 5:45pm
Originally posted by WhiteSportage WhiteSportage wrote:

hello everyone! GREAT forum topic, I'm keen to see pics too Merlin. They sound safe with no errors - thanks for the feedback.

BTW - Turnup - heres something you could try seeing as we have the same bulbs and same vehicle... (i find it pretty good)...Currently i have my front fogs permanently on whenever my lights come on automatically...and it really lights up the road almost like LED's... and car looks cool whilst driving...and i get to use the fogs more rather than just using them 3 times a year for actual fog ;) Wink
 
I agree that it looks pretty cool and I wish I could drive with them on, but it is illegal on UK roads to use front or rear fog lamp when visibility is better than 150m.  In conditions of heavy spray it is permitted to use the rear fog lamp even if visibility is not otherwise impaired. 


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Posted By: Bassa66
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 8:10pm
Hi WhiteSportage I do the same, have my fogs coming on with side lights, shouldnt worry too much the boys in blue have more to do than stop sporty with fog lights on. Driven past loads of the fuzz with them on never been told off yet. And yes they do look cool and the extinguishing led with an indicator flashing no one can say they cannot see what direction your are taking. I have also replaced the indicator lights with chrome bulbs, gets rid of the fried egg look at the front. 



GT line 1.6t Gdi infra red      


Posted By: Pongee
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 11:31pm
Originally posted by WhiteSportage WhiteSportage wrote:


Pongee -  Looking forward to seeing your LEDs in action


Still waiting for them to arrive 😁 Aussie postal service isn't the fastest in the world. Can't wait to get my hands on them.

Cheers,

P.


Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 10:21am
Originally posted by Bassa66 Bassa66 wrote:

Hi WhiteSportage I do the same, have my fogs coming on with side lights, shouldnt worry too much the boys in blue have more to do than stop sporty with fog lights on. Driven past loads of the fuzz with them on never been told off yet. And yes they do look cool and the extinguishing led with an indicator flashing no one can say they cannot see what direction your are taking. I have also replaced the indicator lights with chrome bulbs, gets rid of the fried egg look at the front. 



GT line 1.6t Gdi infra red      
 
It's OK as long as you don't get pulled up for it?
 
It is illegal for a reason.


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Posted By: Pongee
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2017 at 10:10am
OK, so I finally got my bulbs and I have attempted to install them. Long story short I cannot replace my dust cover as the heat sink is too long. Wondering if UK Sportages have a different dust cover from the Aussie ones?

Pics (hopefully) below. Looks like I will have to source new dust covers. Back to my Philips x-treme visions for now till I can sort the dust cover thing out.



Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2017 at 11:26am
Mine look a little different but not very much.  Perhaps Learoy can help.
 


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Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2017 at 11:59am
yours in Australia are definitely  different to ours in the uk. you could buy 2 caps cut the middle out of the old two and bond the new ones onto the back with an epoxy resin.
is it the heat sink that hits your cap as mine has about 2cm clearance.


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Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2017 at 6:28pm
Mine are same as Turnup's picture and there is no clearance issue with the heat sinks.

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Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2017 at 6:31pm
Merlin,  can you get us some pics at night showing the beam patterns?

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Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2017 at 8:17pm
These aren't the best, but just been round the block and because of street lighting I couldn't get a decent shot of the light pattern. 




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Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2017 at 8:26pm
Thanks Merlin, I appreciate that you have taken the trouble.  Looks like a pretty good beam pattern to me.  Time for me to get in touch with Chikto I think.

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Posted By: KevinBattle
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2017 at 12:49am
Oi! Napoleon, put that light out!
I also have an order for the LED headlights plus indicators etc and chitko found me a set, just finalising the deal.....

We've talked before that Australasia and US have different models from Korea to our SlovaKIA ones, this shows how many differences there are. One day Kia may wake up to the financial savings that having common parts except for essential in certain markets (LHD/RHD etc) may bring them...

.... but we just buy their cars, so why should they take note?

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Posted By: Pongee
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2017 at 5:56am
All,

Thanks so much for the swift responses and pictures looks like the Aus caps a similar to the Yank models and utilised a 4 tab flat design and no spare space at the back. I have resorted to ordering a set of caps for a Sorento (comes with 2 big and 2 small protruding caps) from Korea. Downer is they’ll take a more than a month to arrive and see if they actually fit.

Cheers,

P.


Posted By: KevinBattle
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2017 at 9:36am
Pongee: Don't you have a Kia dealer near you, or perhaps a salvage yard where you could get the caps sooner and cheaper - to see if they fit?

Off topic: We have family in Alma Road - is that near you?

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Posted By: Pongee
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 9:42am
KevinBattle,

A combination of lack of time and familiarity with the Melbourne junkyard scene conspires against me going down that path. In any case DST starts next week, so the need isn’t that urgent.

Re Alma Road, there’s about 5 of the dotted around Melbourne, which somehow all seem to be about 15-20km from where I am (Oak Park). The St Kilda Alma Rd appears to be the most famous one 😁

Cheers,

P.


Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 7:48pm
I am having an issue where 1 bulb is going out after about 10-15 mins (same bulb), there is no warning on the dash and as it isn't getting real dark yet I only notice it in the reflection from the car/van in front. As soon as I turn lights off then immediately on the bulb illuminates again for another 10-15 minutes. I have contacted the seller and am awaiting a satisfactory response to my issue. This has happened with lights set to Auto or manually turned on. Ballast isn't overly hot, as I can hold it in my hand without going oooh aghhh hot hot hot.

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Posted By: Turnup
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 8:11pm
Bummer.  Try exchanging the bulbs but not the ballasts from side to side.  If fault moves it's the bulb.  If fault does not move swap the ballasts from side to side.

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Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 9:06pm
Originally posted by Turnup Turnup wrote:

Bummer.  Try exchanging the bulbs but not the ballasts from side to side.  If fault moves it's the bulb.  If fault does not move swap the ballasts from side to side.
Yep, that is going to be my next course of action. But going to do ballasts first as that is the quickest, they have quick connects.


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Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 10:45pm
make sure the ballast is as far away from the heat sink as poss as the ballast will have over heat protection.mine did that on the passenger  side one till i moved the ballast hope this helps

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Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2017 at 6:03pm
Originally posted by learoy learoy wrote:

make sure the ballast is as far away from the heat sink as poss as the ballast will have over heat protection.mine did that on the passenger  side one till i moved the ballast hope this helps
I have just this minute swapped over the bulbs and made sure that the ballasts are as far away as possible. Was told you also had an overheat problem Learoy so was hoping you would post up and let me know how you 'solved' it. I will drive out to Manchester tomorrow and see if the bulb is still lit. Coincidentally mine is also the passenger side! Wonder if there is less of a space in that side?


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Posted By: learoy
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2017 at 7:54pm
I swapped the ballast over but I think the nearside one was sat behind the heatsink causing the problem.have done 2x 2 hour trips and 1x3hour trip with lights on and have had no problems.my ballast is sat in the bottom of the head lamp

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Posted By: MerlinL14
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2017 at 3:09pm
I put he ballast as far from the heatsink as possible and the passenger side headlight is still powering off. I have swapped the bulbs over, going to try swapping the ballast. If that doesn't work it looks like I wasted £63! 

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