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Kia are doing their own anti-diesel tactics with us, by making our 2017 diesel Sportage no better on fuel than the bloody petrol version....Cry

I'm hoping they go for increased VED, as our car is leased and the VED is not our problem.
If they go for an increase on fuel.....I'll be extra annoyed....


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Telegraph were suggesting a selective increase in diesel fuel duty.
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It should be an increase in vat/purchase tax on new cars.
Doesn't seem fair to hammer existing owners who bought diesels in good faith after the government told us diesels were good!
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It should be an increase in vat/purchase tax on new cars.
Doesn't seem fair to hammer existing owners who bought diesels in good faith after the government told us diesels were good!
Since when did any government do fair?!
 My gut feeling is they'll increase the VED rates, but the cynic in me thinks that they have demonized Diesel so much and so vocally they'll think they can get away with increasing both VED and duty... 


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They will try every avenue, that's for sure.
Electric car sales are shooting up, they must be feeling the decreased revenue in the treasury already.
Although they can't really tax electricity on electric cars, it's surely only a matter of time until they stop being free from VED as well.


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Originally posted by bowfer bowfer wrote:

They will try every avenue, that's for sure.
Electric car sales are shooting up, they must be feeling the decreased revenue in the treasury already.
Although they can't really tax electricity on electric cars, it's surely only a matter of time until they stop being free from VED as well.
 Hell hath no fury like a government deprived of tax revenue Wink
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Originally posted by Gary0679 Gary0679 wrote:

Hell hath no fury like a government deprived of tax revenue Wink
 
It's funny the discussions people have with me, now that I'm an electric vehicle owner.
I don't mind ignorance, I'm happy to answer questions, it's the weird hatred I can't fathom.
It's like they think I'm doing them out of money or something.
I've even had one person tell me the government absolutely will (and should...) start taxing electric cars charged at home.
When I asked how, they were stumped.
It's on exactly the same supply and meter as everything else, how on earth would they tax me more on car electricity only?
Now, it's entirely feasible future electric car charger installations will be forced to be on a separate meter with a different rate of VAT...but not just now.


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I can think of some ways to selectively tax Electric cars.
 
Sales tax.
 
VED.
 
VED sliding scale on mileage.
 
Require use of a charger with integral meter.
 
Tax on trust declaration of mileage and retrospective verification of miles driven (say annual inspection of vehicle).  
 
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Originally posted by bowfer bowfer wrote:

Originally posted by Gary0679 Gary0679 wrote:

Hell hath no fury like a government deprived of tax revenue Wink
 
It's funny the discussions people have with me, now that I'm an electric vehicle owner.
I don't mind ignorance, I'm happy to answer questions, it's the weird hatred I can't fathom.
It's like they think I'm doing them out of money or something.
I've even had one person tell me the government absolutely will (and should...) start taxing electric cars charged at home.
When I asked how, they were stumped.
It's on exactly the same supply and meter as everything else, how on earth would they tax me more on car electricity only?
Now, it's entirely feasible future electric car charger installations will be forced to be on a separate meter with a different rate of VAT...but not just now.
Totally agree! For the majority of drivers who don't do hundreds of miles daily, I believe that now is the ideal time to own an electric car purely and simply because of the lack of things such as separate metering... They'll only tighten things up in the future. 
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